JFK assasination game
by Joshua Dallman · in General Discussion · 11/22/2004 (11:26 pm) · 63 replies
As widely reported in the media, a new game was released on the anniversary of JFK's assasination that allows players to assume the role of Lee Harvey Oswald and shoot JFK's motorcade. The game is billed as a "interactive recreation" of the JFK assasination.
What are some people's thoughts about this?
What are some people's thoughts about this?
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#42
While I can't say he deserved to die, I'll say this much -
Bad things happen to good mass murderers. I think there's a few million Vietnamese children that can appreciate this game a little more than us Westerners - seeing as how their family units were tragically truncated due to JFK's imperial aggressions.
I mean, when you start a war that kills approximately 1 to 3 million people, I think people can be forgiven for fantasizing about your death in a video game!
Does America have a martyr complex? How else could you explain such reverence to a mass murderer like JFK?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_war#Origins
Other inhuman atrocities approved by JFK indescriminaely against Vietnamese town, cities, and children -
www.antiwar.com/orig/austin.php?articleid=3838
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_orange
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:TrangBang.jpg
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napalm
I mean, if it's okay to have a game about killing, say, German mass murderers, then what is so bad about having a game about killing an American one?
12/31/2004 (8:07 pm)
People quickly forget that it was JFK that started the horrendous Vietnam war, which ended the lives of 60,000 Americans, destroyed the lives of hundreds of thousands more Americans, and took the life of an estimated 1 to 3 million Vietnamese men, women, and children.While I can't say he deserved to die, I'll say this much -
Bad things happen to good mass murderers. I think there's a few million Vietnamese children that can appreciate this game a little more than us Westerners - seeing as how their family units were tragically truncated due to JFK's imperial aggressions.
I mean, when you start a war that kills approximately 1 to 3 million people, I think people can be forgiven for fantasizing about your death in a video game!
Does America have a martyr complex? How else could you explain such reverence to a mass murderer like JFK?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_war#Origins
Other inhuman atrocities approved by JFK indescriminaely against Vietnamese town, cities, and children -
www.antiwar.com/orig/austin.php?articleid=3838
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_orange
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:TrangBang.jpg
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napalm
I mean, if it's okay to have a game about killing, say, German mass murderers, then what is so bad about having a game about killing an American one?
#43
Hate to break it to you however, you need to do some research on your history beyond a single (and highly inaccurate) source compilation. The viewpoints and examples given in that one article alone are some of the most twisted and hilarious re-writes of history I've seen in quite a while...all twisted in with actual facts to make it seem quite convincing.
There is a reason wiki's commonly don't have author's names attached--you can get away with just about anything since it's not a "published" source.
12/31/2004 (8:18 pm)
Here we go again--politics in a gaming forum.Hate to break it to you however, you need to do some research on your history beyond a single (and highly inaccurate) source compilation. The viewpoints and examples given in that one article alone are some of the most twisted and hilarious re-writes of history I've seen in quite a while...all twisted in with actual facts to make it seem quite convincing.
There is a reason wiki's commonly don't have author's names attached--you can get away with just about anything since it's not a "published" source.
#44
Why not share the responsiblity around... to like... you know...that evil communist country
12/31/2004 (8:19 pm)
Sure... blame it on the Americans...Why not share the responsiblity around... to like... you know...that evil communist country
#45
12/31/2004 (8:21 pm)
What's interesting is Bryan actually appears to BE an "American", although simply by seeing how he describes his location in his .profile, he's obviously not proud of it...good to see that you are more than willing to soak up all the benefits of our society by living in it, while defiling it's history and beliefs with rhetoric and twisted facts ;)
#46
12/31/2004 (8:32 pm)
Yes, Wikipedia is, like, so anti-American...
#47
12/31/2004 (8:36 pm)
Any time you try to prove a point using a source that has to devote an entire page of multiple Disclaimers that all do nothing but say over and over again that the information is completely unproven, cannot be taken as an authoritative source, and they can't be held reliable for false information leaves your points sorely in doubt, sorry.
#48
For the record, it recently said something along the lines of: Taylor, NC--United Police States of America (that's a paraphrase from memory, since he changed it immediately after I commented on it).
I rest my case :)
12/31/2004 (8:41 pm)
Lol, were you so embarassed by your location that you had to change it?For the record, it recently said something along the lines of: Taylor, NC--United Police States of America (that's a paraphrase from memory, since he changed it immediately after I commented on it).
I rest my case :)
#49
With your encyclopedic knowledge, you should be more than qualified to correct these erroneous and deceitful Wikipedian mistakes.
I shall expect to see your changes on Wikipedia as soon as reasonably possible. It is the truth we are after, after all.
But then again, doesn't the fact that just anyone can change it go to show why they have these insidious DISCLAIMERS in the first place?
Nah! It must be because it's all just a bunch of anti-American lies!
LIES I TELL YOU!
ALL LIES!
Point in fact, I was in the middle of changing it to something you would consider even worse... Perhaps you'll like it more now...
And now, I secede from this thread unlike my poor southern forefathers could not secede from the unconstitutional Union By Bayonet...
And happy New Year, you crazy game developer fanatics!
12/31/2004 (8:43 pm)
Seeing as how it's a WIKI, you are able to go and correct all the statements that you feel are in err.With your encyclopedic knowledge, you should be more than qualified to correct these erroneous and deceitful Wikipedian mistakes.
I shall expect to see your changes on Wikipedia as soon as reasonably possible. It is the truth we are after, after all.
But then again, doesn't the fact that just anyone can change it go to show why they have these insidious DISCLAIMERS in the first place?
Nah! It must be because it's all just a bunch of anti-American lies!
LIES I TELL YOU!
ALL LIES!
Quote:For the record, it recently said something along the lines of: Taylor, NC--United Police States of America (that's a paraphrase from memory, since he changed it immediately after I commented on it).And thank YOU, Mr. McCarthy, for pointing out yet another evil communist agent! I shall find my way to the Gunatanamo Galug, and turn myself in as the world's first libertarian communist agent.
Point in fact, I was in the middle of changing it to something you would consider even worse... Perhaps you'll like it more now...
And now, I secede from this thread unlike my poor southern forefathers could not secede from the unconstitutional Union By Bayonet...
And happy New Year, you crazy game developer fanatics!
#50
01/02/2005 (7:53 am)
Please dont feed the troll.
#51
Actually playing a game that partakes in the assasanation of a known and respected (good) person, and letting people pull the trigger is rediculous. Just my opinion. What's next, a Martin Luther King and Malcom X expansion pack that comes bundled with a white sheet? Or how about a Yasser Arafat life support unplugging game to see who can pull the plug at the point when he has the most life in him. Rediculous. Don't even get me started on the recent tsunami crisis. There's so much money that can be made!!! And ultimatley, that is what it all comes down to. They'd make a game about killing their own daughter if it would make them a buck.
-Ajari-
01/05/2005 (12:21 pm)
It's because we view JFK was a good human being. That's why the game is frowned apon. Theres a game on PS2 and possibly Xbox that allows you to hunt and kill Bin Laden along with other known terrorists. Nobody, not even the media had a problem with it. Because they are evil and deserve to die anyway. If anything, this JFK game is just feuling game industry witch hunter's fire. Now they really have a reason to try to ban any game with a gun. Actually playing a game that partakes in the assasanation of a known and respected (good) person, and letting people pull the trigger is rediculous. Just my opinion. What's next, a Martin Luther King and Malcom X expansion pack that comes bundled with a white sheet? Or how about a Yasser Arafat life support unplugging game to see who can pull the plug at the point when he has the most life in him. Rediculous. Don't even get me started on the recent tsunami crisis. There's so much money that can be made!!! And ultimatley, that is what it all comes down to. They'd make a game about killing their own daughter if it would make them a buck.
-Ajari-
#52
With that being said, do I think its good taste? Not really. Would I buy it? No. But if you live in the US it IS your RIGHT to make a game as long as it doesnt incite violence.
@Ajari - where can I download this fictional game you speak of in which you unplug Arafat? I'd love to play it! Oh, never mind, just playing it doesnt cause any effects in the real world. Oh well....
01/05/2005 (12:40 pm)
JFK wasnt as 'good' of a person as everyone thinks. Read some material about him sometime, both positive material AND negative. I would have to say that possibly the straightest shooting president we've had in the past 50 years was Reagan, the rest were as crooked as the politicians in the UN. The fact that he (JFK) was assinated in front of so many tends to make him like a god or martyr, supressing the negative things about him.With that being said, do I think its good taste? Not really. Would I buy it? No. But if you live in the US it IS your RIGHT to make a game as long as it doesnt incite violence.
@Ajari - where can I download this fictional game you speak of in which you unplug Arafat? I'd love to play it! Oh, never mind, just playing it doesnt cause any effects in the real world. Oh well....
#53
01/05/2005 (12:54 pm)
I can't really say that any president that has had an assassination attempt on their lives has been a straight arrow. Some have just been less bent than others. Some resemble a pretzel with knots.
#54
01/05/2005 (12:58 pm)
Very true - could be almost straight or nowhere near straight like a pretzel. Or perhaps pretzels within a pretzel?
#55
What I mean by "good person" is, Kennedy didn't kill anybody, didn't blow up any buildings, and just didn't do anything really horrible to any one person or groups that I know of....lol directly anyway. Maybe he passed a screwed up law, cheated on his wife and screwed Monroe, and maybe even stole some money but that doesn't make him worthy of being the star of a game where you get to kill him over and over again and making some kind of parody out of it. That great honor should be reserved for the real "evil doers" of the world.
Just went to the games site. Created by some Scottish company. No wonder. Isn't there someone in Scotland that's been assasinated that they can make a game about? Everybody is trying to make money off of America and American history. But that's another subject.
-Ajari-
01/05/2005 (2:45 pm)
@ Nate: Correct me if I'm wrong but wasnt Arafat all about the world peace movement? I'll be honest and say I haven't kept up with his side of the political world but he was in Time magazine numerous times in the light of a world peace leader. Therefore, I don't really understand your comment, and I'm obviously missing something. But I don't really care to do full scale research on the guy either :D. I just thought he was an alright guy because of the way the media displayed him.What I mean by "good person" is, Kennedy didn't kill anybody, didn't blow up any buildings, and just didn't do anything really horrible to any one person or groups that I know of....lol directly anyway. Maybe he passed a screwed up law, cheated on his wife and screwed Monroe, and maybe even stole some money but that doesn't make him worthy of being the star of a game where you get to kill him over and over again and making some kind of parody out of it. That great honor should be reserved for the real "evil doers" of the world.
Just went to the games site. Created by some Scottish company. No wonder. Isn't there someone in Scotland that's been assasinated that they can make a game about? Everybody is trying to make money off of America and American history. But that's another subject.
-Ajari-
#56
BUT, like I said, I dont want to get any more political. Not that I give a rats' about offending someone, I'd just rather not have Jeff, Ben, and others griping at us and threatening to delete the post. After all this is a game site, not a political ranting site. So if you want to discuss it further just shoot me an email.
01/05/2005 (3:18 pm)
@ Ajari: I wont get any more political here as it is a game site, but look at who is the largest shareholder of Time's parent company and thatll answer a lot of questions. Theyve touted him as both a terrorist supporter and peacemaker over the past. He recieved funding from the Soviets, which speaks for itself. He was also a friend of the PLO - more of a terrorist organization than an organization who tries to accomplish its goals at the negotiation table.BUT, like I said, I dont want to get any more political. Not that I give a rats' about offending someone, I'd just rather not have Jeff, Ben, and others griping at us and threatening to delete the post. After all this is a game site, not a political ranting site. So if you want to discuss it further just shoot me an email.
#57
-Ajari-
01/05/2005 (4:34 pm)
@ Nate: No it's ok. It's cool. You taught me something I didn't know about the guy. I figured he was pretty much on the up and up and I was wrong so thanks for clearing that up for me. I wouldn't worry about getting in trouble too much in this thread. Your words are somewhat related to the topic of this post, even if we swayed a little. But I'm finished talking about it anyway. Thanks for the info. I had no idea he was into all that.-Ajari-
#58
Stupid Democrats. Look, i doubt he even started the war, and even if he did, you want to kill him? What a jacka** you are! Burn in h***!
01/16/2005 (7:20 pm)
Quote:People quickly forget that it was JFK that started the horrendous Vietnam war, which ended the lives of 60,000 Americans, destroyed the lives of hundreds of thousands more Americans, and took the life of an estimated 1 to 3 million Vietnamese men, women, and children.
Stupid Democrats. Look, i doubt he even started the war, and even if he did, you want to kill him? What a jacka** you are! Burn in h***!
#59
I think it's not just a certain party's fault. I mean, the media gives what the people want. And as far as I can tell, the people want this, or else the people who made that game would probably be in major hot water right now.
Personally, I think games should be nonpersonal. When they get personal, ugly things happen.
01/16/2005 (7:26 pm)
@Bryce try to avoid calling other members names. The issue here is JFK, not Bryan -.- Besides, Bryan did not support the game anyways, so why are you getting down on him?I think it's not just a certain party's fault. I mean, the media gives what the people want. And as far as I can tell, the people want this, or else the people who made that game would probably be in major hot water right now.
Personally, I think games should be nonpersonal. When they get personal, ugly things happen.
#60
01/16/2005 (11:29 pm)
Bryce is 11. 'nuff said.
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