quark4torque or Quark

#1 The biggest advantage I have found in using Quark6.3 is you can open MAP file without having to go into Quake1 mode. Before 6.3 It used to always kick me into Q1 mode then I would have to copy paste the object into a torque map. Kinda got to be a pain. 6.3 also has a few tools that are working better. The setup is the same you just have to make some folders and add a map2dif.
I gotta setup tutorial on my website if it help with that. All the software you need is there also.

Matt

#2 There's some nice information there Matt. I was trying to get Quark 6.3 working with Torque this weekend. Finally got it, but wish I'd seen your link before that :)

#3 Most of the setup that was in quark4torque is now officially in quark6.3.0 final; (plus some new stuff).
Quark4torque was done to help the TGE community before these additions were officially part of the quark release. So move on to the latest quark, because as Matt says, there are many fixes and some new tools. There will be no future versions of quark4torque.

#4 Hrm... Quark 6.3 gives me this... 6.3c was working though...

Quote:
Successfully opened map file: ./maps/newmap.map
Parsing mapfile...Error processing entity brushlist on or near line: ./maps/newmap.map: 42Error parsing map file: ./maps/newmap.map

Alright out of the box this isn't set to Valve 220 map format...

Configuration -> Games -> Torque -> Output Map Format -> Valve 220

-J

#5 Joshua,

Don't know if this is related or not, but check out this thread:

www.garagegames.com/index.php?sec=mg&mod=forums&page=result.thread&qt=5914

*edit* LOL, I posted this at the same instant you edited your post - guess that was the solution :)

#6 @Joshua
Look for the box in your configurations that says "Use Intregal Vertices as Threepoints"
I think its the last box. Make sure its checked. If not thats why your probably getting the error. At least thats been my experience.
Hope that helps

Matt

#7 FYI guys: There is a new patch for 6.3 final. It fixes up some problems with the prism maker, and (really cool in 3/4window view) adds some graphics to each viewpoint to let you know what axis your working on.

To turn on the viewpoint helpers go to:
options>Axis XYZ letter indicator in view windows

#8 Cool, thanks for the info/links,we will be converting , i notice in quark4torque the dif.exe is a dif_debug.exe can i use the latest compiled dif from a HEAD torque or would i be better off using the debug one that was in quark4torque?

#9 Okay, maybe this isn't being made clear enough. I've heard this come up in debate more than once lately. I'm really surprised that this seems to be a popular question, to tell you the truth.

Forget Quark4torque. It was something Desmond created so that torque developers could use Quark immediately and not have to wait for the stable release. It is not a special version of Quark. It is a pre-release of 6.3 with some extra data files. Those same data files are now in the official Quark release. Beyond copying and pasting configuration settings, there should be no need to "convert" at all. It's the same program, it's just a newer version.

You can use whatever map compiler you want. You can use the old version, you can use a version from the CVS HEAD tag, you can use Josh Ritter's new radiosity solution, too. It all depends on what you want. The tool supports it. You only do yourself a disservice by sticking with older versions.

Sorry for the little rant.

#10 I use the marbleblast map2dif. Just rename it. Its alot quiker and more accurate. The build map2dif give me some flaws sometimes. You can also export maps that use floating point numbers. Not sure if the build one allows that or not.

Matt

#11 Yeah, I haven't have time to find out why CVS map2dif RELEASE complains about orphaned polys while DEBUG does not... DEBUG map2dif with radiosity calculations is right out... :)

-J

#12 Mathew:The link to the map2dif on your webpage is not working. I am having some problems with the HEAD version. Where I can get the Marble Blast map2dif?

#13 I'll sacrifice floating point anyday for Joshua's cool radiosity! But I also expect map2dif to have both rad and floating point in the near future. :)

#14 Ya I gotta fix that link I keep forgetting. If you look in thew marble blast section of the forum Under editing there is a link for it in the first post. Also resources should have it.


@Desmond I hope your right.

Matt