Question about modding RW

#1 Anyone? ...Bueller? ...Bueller?

#2 depends if you own a licence or not. you cant sell it without a licence

if you own a licence i guess you can rework it and then sell it through gg with credit to RW for the foundation

if you dont own a licence its still just a mod and as such you wouldnt be able to distribute it without them downloading RW and using yours as an appendage. you would definately not be able to sell it.

#3 I will look into it but i think if you do a total conversion replasing ALL art and you are just talking cade you should be able to use it... I'm not sure though so i will check for you.

#4 Thanks to the both of you for the replies.

Johnathan:

I do own a license; I should've mentioned that. I guess what I was thinking is taking RW from its current unfinished state and branching it into a whole new project which, when finished, might bear very little resemblance to RW. Not so much a product where the end user would d/l the finished RW and then my add-on. But it would still likely contain RW code and scripting.

Pascal:

Thanks for taking the time to look into it.

-Spencer

#5 From what I understand (someone from RW/GG please correct me if I'm wrong), the code and script from RW are available to use in your own projects without limitation, provided you have a license. The art/maps/etc. still remain property of their owners, though, so you'd have to talk to them if you want to use or modify that.

#6 Thanks James!

#7 The code and scripts in Realm Wars are considered part of the TGE source and are covered by the same license. The art, sound, etc is not. So if you replace all the art and sound what you have is simply a TGE project.

#8 Excellent, that's just what I wanted to hear :) Thanks James M!

#9 Just out of curiosity, who *does* the RW art & sound belong to ?

#10 I think to the Realm Wars project should be a correct answer to that but also to the creator of the file. It is not so much a "who owns the stuff" kind of a question but what can you do with it..

I would say you could use it for a RW mod or maybe even template art for your own project just as long as you give proper credit and are not using it for your own commercial project.

RW is being made by the community so pinning ownership to one person or group is hard if not totally wrong. Since it is community effort you could say ownership leis with the community or at least with all who contributed. This how ever doesn't mean that anyone from the community or who contributed a part can cannibalise it and use it how ever they want. It might sound a bit complicated but i believe with common sense and respect for the original creators you answer a lot of questions regarding this topic.

#11 Much of the code, art & sound was created by GG staff (not the 'community') or at GG's behest, and released with Torque back in March '02 or thereabouts. ie. The ORC, crossbow, some sounds, the hovels, etc. prior to RW being given its own CVS and so on. Jeff Tunnell made a statement that yes, RW art could be used with Torque projects (no differention between commercial or non-commercial). It would seem to be more than passing difficult to lay claim to any of that prior work product as 'belonging to the Realm Wars community' as opposed to 'belonging to the Torque community', even if GG attempted a claw-back.

#12 As i see it, all art assets belong to the creator, with license given to RW for its usage.

Unless someone signs over the exclusive rights to use it (something we should really clear up legally before people submit too much).

Phil.