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I Need A Website designer (will pay % of website monthly gross)

by Chris · in General Discussion · 11/01/2008 (1:22 pm) · 27 replies

I am looking for a professional website designer who can build my website. Now I do not have money to pay for the service, however I will pay a monthly percentage of the gross for 2 years (will put that in a legal contract) Its a complex and sophisticated website, so if your an amature that please don't waste either of our time. Please e-mail me at chris_stracc@hotmail.com only serious inquiries only please. thank you
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#1
11/01/2008 (1:44 pm)
@Chris - I respectfully ask that you do not spam our forums with the same topic across all boards. One is enough, so I left this one intact and removed the rest.

I do have a suggestion that you post these kinds of requests in the help wanted or team building sections of the site.

Good luck with your search!
#2
11/01/2008 (2:28 pm)
Chris, a complex and sophisticated website is not something that's done in a day, even a week. You should at least tell us about what your website is about, so people can see if it's something worth jumping into - you are asking people to invest resources (=money) into your website afterall.

Quote:
so if your an amature that please don't waste either of our time

Unless you tell us what the website is all about, even those amateurs won't respond to your call. =)
#3
11/01/2008 (3:01 pm)
Sorry micheal P, I didn't mean to spam it everywhere... I just thought that if I put it in several places where the most people go than it would have better odds for people to see, again I apologize for that. Konrad, I understand that it take a lot of time to put a website together however it will be very lucrative for who ever invests their time. I have spent very much time doing research in the idea of the website and to the way to market it and to generate income. In a nut shell... its a Internet Broadcasting website with will utilize an online "paper boy" (in the form of a multi-level marketing and incentive program)to generate subscribers. I can not get into detail for the simple fact that people will take what you have and run with it as their own.
#4
11/01/2008 (3:08 pm)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you want to create an MLM site that passes subscribers up the ladder? Isn't that spamming? Am I misunderstanding something?
#5
11/01/2008 (6:34 pm)
Not at all, that is the best way I can describe what im talking about.. but in no way is it a MLM.. again, that is the best way to describe it. their is a incentive/bonus program but it isnt a MLM .. suscribers promote the website and if people sign up than they recieve a bonus (cash to a paypal account). so current suscribers can make money by promoting the website. They don't sell anything at all.. and most people won't do that, however the option is their for those that choose to do so. so yes, you are misunderstanding something. If you are interested in building a website, thats great. I would be more than happy to give you my contact details. If not, than stop wasting my time. And I don't mean that in a rude way my friend.
#6
11/01/2008 (6:35 pm)
By the way K Kiss, the material on the website is what will get people to join. the promotion part is something extra for people that might want to make a few extra bucks.
#7
11/01/2008 (6:42 pm)
@Chris - I'm curious why you joined GarageGames seeking this kind of help. When you mention the content that will be on the site, is it game related? Development or otherwise?
#8
11/02/2008 (12:46 pm)
@Michael, I was reffered to you website from my sister and brother inlaw, my sister works for insomnia and my brother in law works for epic. they told me that this was a good site to find someone who may be able to help me with building a website, maybe someone here who also does programming for games might also do website designing. and yes, I would also have on my website a place where people can upload their games for others to download to play from my website or have game that can be played on the browser from my website. But I need the website built first.
#9
11/02/2008 (1:31 pm)
@Chris - OK. That's helps a little. The more information you are able to release without compromising your position makes it easier for us to guide you to the appropriate places.

The forums most geared toward what you want can be found here:
Web Forum
Development Marketplace

The Dev Marketplace is where you can look for people who post their services, or make official postings yourself. Try browsing through there to see if you can find a freelancer or team in need of gaining experience as opposed to finances.

I can tell you from my own experience that finding cheap or free help on building a website is really tough. A quality job most definitely requires more experienced developers, which always costs a pretty penny =/

When I wanted my flash site built, I was looking at a minimum of $10K investment for a polished product. I even had the template and source art ready to go.

At any rate, I hope that helps you out.
#10
11/02/2008 (3:02 pm)
Thank you michael I appreciate your help. I'll be honest with you, I do have the money to pay someone however ( I own several restaurants in maryland and philladelphia) but im looking for someone that has the drive and ambition to put their time on the line for a payoff later... someone who is fresh out of collage and not working yet.. or maybe someone who just has free time on their hands. reguardless I believe strong in what I plan on doing and I know that it will be very lucrative.
#11
11/02/2008 (3:21 pm)
You own several restaurants? Do you pay your employees? lol Funny how people think web designers will do anything for free. Someone fresh out of COLLEGE in PHILADELPHIA will run you about 40k per year starting out. I know this because thats what I started out at and that was about 7 years ago so I'm sure the pay has increased. You don't want a professional who just spent thousands on college. You want someone fresh and still in highschool.

btw: Might wanna speellchek a little before asking for a professional web designer to work for free.
#12
11/02/2008 (3:24 pm)
Curious:

www.getafreelancer.com/projects/Website-Design-Logo-Design/Need-Website-Designer...


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#13
11/02/2008 (3:44 pm)
Very good, I must have missed that when typing.. im glad you caught it.. because its a very serious matter on how someone types( haha, who cares). if your not interested in what Im asking for, than don't respond.. unless your life is that unfullfilling that you have nothing else to do besides read about what people need on forums and than type trash about it.. if thats the case, than you must have a lot of free time on your hands and maybe you want to be a part of my project. If so, than e-mail me at chris_stracc@hotmail.com and I will give you my contact information.
#14
11/02/2008 (3:58 pm)
Chris, how can you expect someone here to be excited about the job you are offering when:

- You do not disclose enough information about it, which - as you've seen - leaves room for misunderstandings. My gut was screaming Noooo!!!! right at that point. The information is not enough to even vaguely think of an offer or a timeframe.
- You just said that you could easily pay the designer, yet you want him/her to take risks with you. (That's just cheap, sorry.)
- If someone criticizes your way of doing this, you get all annoyed and arrogant. That's a very bad omen in business. You should know that already.

Keep in mind that an experienced web designer has been in the business from around '96, has spent numerous hours and money on educating him or herself. Most of these guys have their own code repository or CMS that they work with. So it's not only the time put into your project...

mb is right. What you are asking could be done by a high-school student or someone even younger, but - with a few exceptions -, there's just not enough experience there.

What if your site's traffic jumps up really high? A good designer takes care of that from the very start. You don't just pay for the eye-candy. You also pay for saving your assets when your business gets going, and the site can still take the load. Trust a rookie with creating your complex web portal, and once more than a 100 people hit you, it kneels down.

So if you want a website, you should just pick Dreamweaver up, or something that anyone can use, and do it yourself. If you want a backbone for your online business, you need to pay, and it's not cheap.

If you are so sure about this, and you have the money, why don't you just pay someone to do this? That only makes sense, if your site would earn less within the two years than what you'd have to pay for the development. So where's the business for the designer?

If all you interpret from this is that people are trashing you, then this is probably not the place for you to find who you are looking for. You should also measure the possibility of us wanting to help you out in actually finding someone to do your website. But to achieve that, there's a few things you should change.

For starters, you would be very lucky to get someone do your site for the $3K you've put this up at that address. So after all this, does this seem pathetic to you, that you want something like this done for free?

Would you make one of your restaurants cook for every member of my company for a year? I think it'd work out, but can't really talk about it, cuz.. you know.. there's people listening in and all... a hell of an opportunity though. Want in?

Oh, yeah, who cares about grammar, right? If you use correct grammar, you seem less like a kid, and you are much more likely to be taken seriously.
#15
11/02/2008 (4:09 pm)
You are correct, I do exspect someone to do this, not for free.. but to get paid a percentage which would benifit them more in the long term. now as for the rest, you seem like you know what your talking about.. which I do not. I have no idea how to build or design a website. Now as far as being cheap.. yes, I am very cheap... I squeze a quarter till the eagle screams. Now I am not a very educated man, I was born and raised in south philly, I worked as a stock broker for 6 years and made a fortune, I started out working for free and it made me what I am today, a cheap weathly guy who would rather see someone with ambition get paid a great deal of money for doing a great job, instead of me paying someone a few thousand and getting a shitty job. I like your attitude. e-mail me at chris_stracc@hotmail.com so I can give you my contact details and we'll work something out.
#16
11/02/2008 (4:11 pm)
Sorry, I'll just listen to what my gut says. Hope you find someone.
#17
11/02/2008 (4:11 pm)
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Honestly, no web designer who can create a "professional looking" website is going to work for free. I'm recently out of college (Bach in Computer Science) and have my own projects to spend my free time on. What makes you think your ideas are better than mine or anyone else out there who has no money? The fact that you can't pay anything for hard work shows how well thought out and dedicated you are to your project.

There is domain name registration, monthly server hosting expenses, search engine optimization, graphic or logo design, etc... and of course caffeine and snack food expenses.

My advice to you is spend some money on a website template, then hire someone to simply modify it to your liking. From there, take care of things yourself. Nothing is free, even if you have a solid business plan.

mb's advice on finding a highschooler is pretty sound. I started creating websites for people when I was in junior high, AND I was getting paid for it, though not much of course. But, I bet you could find someone to help you with the technical aspects for a reasonable price. However, saying things like "so if your an amature that please don't waste either of our time." Is only wasting your time.

Instead of spending hours posting positions for non-paying jobs, go read a web design book. The worst that could happen is you learn something in the process.

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#18
11/02/2008 (4:23 pm)
I already paid for the domain, 5 years hosting, logo design and all the rest of it. if you not interested than your not interested. I guess this wasn't the place to find the people Im looking for. None the less, I'll leave this post up here for anyone who is interested. oh ya, I tried to do it myself.. didn't get far ( i have ADD) I'm good at sales and business.. that's all my friend.
#19
11/02/2008 (4:34 pm)
If you already have a domain and 5 years webhosting (which is $1000+ btw), why are you using a hotmail account? It would be much more professional looking to have "chris@yourdomainname.com" If your intent on having all of your e-mail in your hotmail inbox, then just forward your domain e-mail to your hotmail.

And you may not want to be paying for webhosting if your A. not using it or B. not sure which service to use. Does your site need to be hosted on Unix or Windows? What version of SQL are you going to be using? What about PHP? These are things that the web designer should be deciding.

And if you have a logo design and "all the rest of it", why haven't you shown it? It sure would help convince someone to work on your project - show that you have done some work yourself, rather than just a concept.

Just some advice.
#20
11/02/2008 (7:10 pm)
@ J.P. Berry I think this is it: news.filefront.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/team-awesome-logo.gif
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