Constructor Problems
by Alan Young · in Constructor · 10/24/2008 (10:06 am) · 19 replies
Have tried constructor on two different systems I have tried it on a vista 64 bit unlimited and a 32 bit XP Home.
I have installed a fresh TorqueConstructor_Win_1_0_3 on both and tried to update with 1_0_42 patch and 1_0_5_1 patch none work at all on both machines.
I have also noticed that TorqueConstructor_Win_1_0_3 work ok on the XP home 32 bit system but on my 64 bit system it dosn't work very well some times it will load and some time it will not.
I have been trying to have a good play with constructor but haven't been able to so learning is very difficult.
I would prefer it if constructor would work on my 64 but machine as its more powerful the, only reason I tried it on the 32 bit machine was to see if the updates would work on that machine.
Can anyone help me with this problems I would realy like to have ago with the TGE 1.5 but I can get constructor to work.
I have installed a fresh TorqueConstructor_Win_1_0_3 on both and tried to update with 1_0_42 patch and 1_0_5_1 patch none work at all on both machines.
I have also noticed that TorqueConstructor_Win_1_0_3 work ok on the XP home 32 bit system but on my 64 bit system it dosn't work very well some times it will load and some time it will not.
I have been trying to have a good play with constructor but haven't been able to so learning is very difficult.
I would prefer it if constructor would work on my 64 but machine as its more powerful the, only reason I tried it on the 32 bit machine was to see if the updates would work on that machine.
Can anyone help me with this problems I would realy like to have ago with the TGE 1.5 but I can get constructor to work.
#2
10/24/2008 (1:37 pm)
Make sure you disable Aero on Constructor under Vista. It can cause problems with the GL drivers. 
#3
Like David said...disable the Aero.....
10/24/2008 (1:40 pm)
I works on Vista 64 Bit no problems. Thats what Im running.Like David said...disable the Aero.....
#4
How do I disable the Aero....?
I think it is a conflict with something but I don't know what aero is.....
10/24/2008 (2:08 pm)
Thanks for your replies there is no log file well I can't find it.How do I disable the Aero....?
I think it is a conflict with something but I don't know what aero is.....
#5
Right-click the Constructor icon and select properties.
I cannot remember offhand which tab has it, though since I'm on XP right now. But it us under the properties dialog. You can also set it to compatibility mode for XP.
10/24/2008 (2:17 pm)
You know those fancy windows that Vista has? That's Aero.Right-click the Constructor icon and select properties.
I cannot remember offhand which tab has it, though since I'm on XP right now. But it us under the properties dialog. You can also set it to compatibility mode for XP.
#6
can you help with the installing the updates when? I have tried to copy and paste the file/folders into constructor directory and everything copied fine but when I have tried to run constructor after, it dosn't run...?
on both 1_0_42 patch and 1_0_5_1 patch.
10/24/2008 (2:33 pm)
Seems to have done the trick thanks alot m8t :)can you help with the installing the updates when? I have tried to copy and paste the file/folders into constructor directory and everything copied fine but when I have tried to run constructor after, it dosn't run...?
on both 1_0_42 patch and 1_0_5_1 patch.
#7
Aero just takes up more of your system resources, and aesthetically, I don't like it.
Also you can disable a lot frivolous eyecandy by going to Control Panel - System - Performance and disabling things like animated menus. It won't give you a huge performance boost but makes windows, menus, etc open and shut faster.
You know you spend too much time around computers when you complain about 50ms being too long ......
10/24/2008 (3:10 pm)
To disable Aero, right click on desktop, left click "open classic properties", and then choose "windows vista basic".Aero just takes up more of your system resources, and aesthetically, I don't like it.
Also you can disable a lot frivolous eyecandy by going to Control Panel - System - Performance and disabling things like animated menus. It won't give you a huge performance boost but makes windows, menus, etc open and shut faster.
You know you spend too much time around computers when you complain about 50ms being too long ......
#8
Just decompress the 1.051 patch over your existing directory, with folders intact. It's cumulative. If you have further problems, send me an email, and I'll reply with the link to a full download.
Jaimi
10/24/2008 (5:20 pm)
@Alan - Just decompress the 1.051 patch over your existing directory, with folders intact. It's cumulative. If you have further problems, send me an email, and I'll reply with the link to a full download.
Jaimi
#9
I am using vista 64 Ultimate
10/27/2008 (7:33 am)
Hi sorry I spoke to soon its doing the same thing again I have disabled everything even under advanced settings I set it to best proformance. I also disabled everything I could find when right clicking on the constructor icon, I couldn't find aero though. I am using vista 64 Ultimate
#10
gives a menu list that in Vista32 has this order:
Windows Aero
Windows Vista Basic
Windows Standard
Windows Classic
etc
10/27/2008 (9:02 am)
Right Click - Personalization - Window Color and Appearance - Appearance and Settingsgives a menu list that in Vista32 has this order:
Windows Aero
Windows Vista Basic
Windows Standard
Windows Classic
etc
#11
Right click Constructor shortcut --> Properties --> Compatibility tab
Run program in compatibility mode for:
Windows XP (Service pack 2)
Check Disable Visual Themes (this will disable Aero when you run Constructor)
Check Disable Desktop Composition (not sure what this does or if it's necessary, but I have it checked)
Those settings work fine for me, also make sure you have latest video drivers, specially if you're running ATI as their older drivers seem to cause all kinds of problems with Torque products.
10/27/2008 (1:14 pm)
Constructor works fine for me on Vista with a couple of compatibility settings...Right click Constructor shortcut --> Properties --> Compatibility tab
Run program in compatibility mode for:
Windows XP (Service pack 2)
Check Disable Visual Themes (this will disable Aero when you run Constructor)
Check Disable Desktop Composition (not sure what this does or if it's necessary, but I have it checked)
Those settings work fine for me, also make sure you have latest video drivers, specially if you're running ATI as their older drivers seem to cause all kinds of problems with Torque products.
#12
10/28/2008 (1:48 pm)
I don't know whats wrong I have tried it all is there any known compatibility issuses with constructor...
#13
10/28/2008 (2:12 pm)
Does your video card have good OpenGL drivers that work under Vista? Can you use TGE or TGB at all? 
#14
10/28/2008 (2:15 pm)
Yes, please do update your video drivers. The console.log file should be in your constructor folder and should detail where it was that constructor crashed out on you. 
#15
So long as you have adequate memory and up to date video drivers you should be having no problems.
10/28/2008 (2:49 pm)
Quote:disable Aero when you run ConstructorReally? That's weird. I've yet to have a problem with Torque or Constructor either one under Vista with Aero on. I do start having problems with Vista though as soon as I disable Aero so I always leave it on. Isn't it funny with all of these inconsistencies with Torque, various OS's and user experiences?
Constructor works fine for me on Vista with a couple of compatibility settings...
So long as you have adequate memory and up to date video drivers you should be having no problems.
#16
10/28/2008 (3:09 pm)
Yeah. You're about the only one I've talked to that has more problems in Vista after disabling Aero!
#17
AMD 2600+ 1.6GHz Sempron 64bit processor
2 gb RAM
I will copy the console log over later I am using a different machine to post on the net...
I know the system isn't that good but it should do for educational purposes...
Thanks for you help guys... :)
10/28/2008 (3:28 pm)
I have updated the drivers now its said I already had the up to date driver.. TGE has always worked fine... I have a 128 GeForce FX 5200 Graphics Card...AMD 2600+ 1.6GHz Sempron 64bit processor
2 gb RAM
I will copy the console log over later I am using a different machine to post on the net...
I know the system isn't that good but it should do for educational purposes...
Thanks for you help guys... :)
#18
10/28/2008 (3:57 pm)
@ David: yeah it's pretty crazy. I've only had this laptop for a little over a month (otherwise I wouldn't know the first thing about Vista), I'm sure I haven't discovered all of it's problems yet, but as soon as I disabled Aero I was confused because I thought everyone was recommending turning it off and yet it made things a lot worse for me. 
#19
Windows Vista Home Premium
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @2400GHz
4GB Ram, NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
Aero enabled, no particular compatibility settings...
I hope I've not spoke to early :-/
;-)
I've managed to avoid the 64bit CPUs since I was very scared about all the problem I could meet with a 64 bit system...
10/28/2008 (4:19 pm)
This is very strange... I've just boot-up yesterday my new desktop with Vista and Constructor works like a charm... Windows Vista Home Premium
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @2400GHz
4GB Ram, NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
Aero enabled, no particular compatibility settings...
I hope I've not spoke to early :-/
;-)
I've managed to avoid the 64bit CPUs since I was very scared about all the problem I could meet with a 64 bit system...
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