TGE MacOS X 10.5 compatibility

#1 Uhh, interesting question. I'd like to know too! :-) Going to order a new macbook pro this friday so I'm curious whether TGE will run flawlessly on Leopard or not.

#2 I'll receive my Leopard version within a week Mathieu.
Stay tuned! 8-)

#3 Compiled 1.5.1 with XCode 3 on Leopard today without a hitch. My game seems to run as before, and the log doesn't show any errors or warnings. I think we are safe with this update.

#4 Thanks a lot for your feedback Miguel!

#5 Thanks Miguel!

I haven't had a chance to try it myself yet, but the early developer seeds worked without a hitch.

/Paul

#6 Can't run the installer for TGE.

#7 Hmm, if anyone's been trying to use it under X11 (I have my reasons dammit), you'll find that SDL doesn't work on Leopard yet.

Bleh :-(

#8 Have you tried linking against 10.3.9 SDK? It seems SDL is linking against now deprecated CoreAudio methods.

The http://www.nabble.com/SDL-not-building-on-OS-X-10.5-(Leopard)---t4697168.html

The old gcc will also be installed if you use the 10.3.9 SDK from XCode custom installation

#9 I have fink's SDL working just fine on leopard, here. No idea if the audio is causing problems, but with the latest of everything it seems to work fine.

Gary (-;

PS Lally, there's lots of good reasons to do it. I did it a while go, ref1, ref2. Among others, at least you get working joystick input this way :-)
Actually, I'm curious as to whether you've encountered problems with leopard's newfangled X11. The new stuff is awesome in theory [magical transparent X server stuff], but in practice it's a bit of a clusterf**k. [try connecting to a remote host enabling Xforwarding, as a way to launch apple's X11, then watch Xquartz's CPU usage.]

#10 Hey guys,

I've been trying to get TGE 1.5.2 compiled under Leopard using XCode 3. First I encountered that the sdk 10.3.9 directory on a freshly installed Leopard doesn't exist anymore. I changed all occurences of that string to the newest 10.5 directory under /developer/SDKs/.

But now the compiler breaks in the file macCarbFileio.cc at line 57 saying that "utimes was not declared in this scope". This is the line:

return( utimes( path, NULL) == 0); // utimes returns 0 on success.

Any idea about this error? Does someone know if I made it right changing all directories from 10.3.9 to 10.5?

Martin :-)

#11 @Martin: there is an optionnal install on the XCode part of the CD/DVD
You must run it and check appropriate missing SDKs I think.

I *only* upgraded my system, so the 10.3.9 sdk is already there.

let me know if it sounds right. 8-)

#12 Aha! Ok, thanks.

But why does it still need then 10.3.9? Is that the "lowest" OS version it would run then with it? I don't really understand why TGE wants such an old sdk version.

#13 From my understanding (I can be completely wrong), it should ensure compatibility with previous versions of Os X (10.3, 10.2).

#14 Ah ok, sounds logical. So if I would put in 10.4 I would ensure it's downward compatible to 10.4 Tiger versions of OS-X?

#15 Yes, but nothing before that version.
There is still a base of users with 10.2 and 10.3 systems.

Don't forget Mac users are keeping there machine much more longer than PC ones.
I still own my outdated Performas machine with Os 8. 8-)

One is more than 10 years old. ;-)

#16 Ok, that is definately a strong argument! :-)

I'll try to install tonight the missing 10.3.9 directories to see if that works then. I'll get back then here if it worked. But thanks so far Stephan!

#17 Hah! Stephan, you were right! It's quite simple:

Put in the Leopard DVD and start the package

Leopard DVD -> Optional Installs -> XCode Tools -> Packages -> MacOSX10.3.9.pkg

and make sure you select the path to install to is the /Developer/SDKs directory and not the root directory and voila you have the missing 10.3.9 sdk!!

In the same source path you find also the gcc-3.3 package which you need to install too. The destination directory is selected automatically, so don't change it.

My build just succeeded! Yay! Thanks a lot! :-)

#18 You are welcome Martin! 8-)

#19 Oh for the love........I cannot get this stinking utimes error to go away. I have the 10.3.9, 10.4u and 10.5 sdk's installed and ready. As for the project settings I have toggled the base sdk between the different sdk's and I keep getting the same error? "utimes was not declared in this scope" I'm running xcode 3.0 on a mac 10.5.2 anyone have any suggestions?
Thx

#20 I had the same thing when I first tried to run Torque on 10.5. My problem was that I had set the SDK to be 10.5, and I shouldn't have done.

With a clean download, following the steps that Martin posted back in November, I got from the pesky utimes error to a working executable.

www.garagegames.com/blogs/87004/14127

Hope that helps,

Jonathan