3DWS: Detail brush "How to

#1 Here is a Torque.def file that has portal and detail brush. www.garagegames.com/mg/forums/result.thread.php?qt=44199

#2 Thanks Mark, I've understood better how 3DWS works in this way. But I still have a problem:

when defining the "detailbrush" classname when I save the map and then go for the conversion I obtain an empty DIF file: it doesn't recognize any structural/detail surface. This the converter's log:

STATISTICS

- Total brushes: 1
+ Structural: 0
+ Detail: 0
+ Portal: 0

- Number of zones: 1
- Number of surfaces: 0

I'm exporting to TSE not to TGE as the thread you suggested me was about and I'm working with 3DWS 5.47. Could be these versions I'm working with the problem?

Thanks.

#3 Thanks Mark, I've understood better how 3DWS works in this way. But I still have a problem:

when defining the "detailbrush" classname when I save the map and then go for the conversion I obtain an empty DIF file: it doesn't recognize any structural/detail surface. This the converter's log:

STATISTICS

- Total brushes: 1
+ Structural: 0
+ Detail: 0
+ Portal: 0

- Number of zones: 1
- Number of surfaces: 0

I'm exporting to TSE not to TGE as the thread you suggested me was about and I'm working with 3DWS 5.47. Could be these versions I'm working with the problem?

Thanks.

#4 Hi guy,

Seems that I solved the problem with TSE by defining in the Torque.def file the detail class as "detail" instead of "detailbrush".

Thanks a lot. :D

#5 Hi again,

solved the recent Detail brush definition problem I found another one. I've followed a good tutorial in order to understand how detail brush works but I made some tests and this is what I discovered:

- I have 2 overlapping cubes.

Exporting both brushes as they are I obtain 14 surfaces: what I espect from the converter.

Exporting one brush as detail and the other one as normal I obtain 11 suprfaces: what the tutorial tells to do.

Exporting both brush as details I obtain 14 surfaces: what I don't espect from the converter.


Now, imagine to have 3 overlapping cubes. They have not the same size so the lower one is bigger that the middle that is bigger than the top one. This will cause a subdivision process for the 2 lower cubes.
What I espect to do? Defining the lower and middle cube as detail in orther to avoid their subdiviosions: "I'm sorry" tells me the converter, if two brushes overlap or touch and both are details you wont avoid the subdivision. It's a different thing if you define as a details brush the lower and the top one.

As you can see this is a simple example that probably has a solution, but imagine having a more complex model...you go crazy trying to make it work following this logic.

I hope that I'm wrong, that I've committed some mistake because, if not, the detail otions is very very bad handled.


Michele Bedendo
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TNT Artist-Designer
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