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TSE Shader Engine, AMD64

by Christopher Harris · in Torque Game Engine · 08/17/2006 (10:54 am) · 11 replies

I want to press the button so bad, oh man, just a couple more bucks and you'll be mine....

I already have TGE, and thats great stuff.... my question is Will I have problems on AMD64 running/compiling/building TSE? I have a GeForce 6200TC with shader 3.0 support, so I think I'm fine there, but I know various things have had 64 trouble. Not neccessarily looking for 64bit support, just want it to run. I don't want to risk my $150 for something that will sit the plank for a while.

TIA,
Chris
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Torque Owner Paul /*Wedge*/ DElia
#1
08/17/2006 (11:04 am)
Errrr... unless you are running Windows XP 64-bit edition, the fact you even have an AMD64 is irrelevant. There have been issues with _dual core_ AMD setups, but that's a different issue entirely. If you are running TGE fine, then TSE should be fine too. I would actually be much more worried about your video card, that is just about the worst video card with "shader support" you can get. Even if it technically supports them, I doubt you'll be able to run very much with that thing.

Torque Owner Christopher Harris
#2
08/17/2006 (11:06 am)
Yes, you're right, I revise, I'm running x64.

The 6200TC is pretty shoddy huh? What specs should I be looking at with concerns to this?

Torque 3D Owner Eric Forhan
#3
08/17/2006 (11:10 am)
Did you try any of the TSE demos?

I have an AMD64/Radeon 9500, and it runs fine AFAIK.

Torque Owner Christopher Harris
#4
08/17/2006 (11:13 am)
@Eric, Duh, good suggestion, forget there were demos.

Torque Owner Paul /*Wedge*/ DElia
#5
08/17/2006 (11:42 am)
If I recall the 6200TC (Turbo-Cache) only has 16 MB of actual onboard RAM, and uses a hack of swapping virtual memory on your computer or somesuch. It's barely better than onboard video that "supports" shaders. It may run TSE, but I would be dubious of it getting decent framerates trying to run any real degree of graphics. Realistically youl'd want at least a midrange card, like 6600/7600, 9500/X600/X1600 etc. Don't quote me on specific models, just find what the current (or older, sometimes you can find good deals like that) models are.

Torque Owner Christopher Harris
#6
08/17/2006 (11:46 am)
Oh, I was under the impression that it has direct access to RAM since it was PCI Express and that there wasn't much of a bottle neck. I will have to research a bit more on this.

I guess I can always get TSE now and upgrade later.

Thanks for your help!

Torque Owner Tim Heldna
#7
08/17/2006 (12:05 pm)
Stop hitting refresh! =)

Torque Owner Cliff
#8
08/17/2006 (12:23 pm)
Quote:There have been issues with _dual core_ AMD setups

I'm panicking a little bit reading this now, considering my new development hardware is literally in the mail and expected to arrive tommorow... and it contains an AMD FX-62. I did a search for "tse amd dual core" and didn't get any results that explained what this issue might be, so could someone be so kind as to enlighten me?

Thanks.

Torque Owner Paul /*Wedge*/ DElia
#9
08/17/2006 (2:47 pm)
Well it could have direct access to your system RAM or something too, I don't really remember, it's still a weak card even if it had a normal 64mb of RAM on it.

I don't know if the dual core thing was ever a problem in TSE, but given it was with TGE I assume it could have been with TSE as well. Usually it was just a matter of downloading updated drivers for the processor from AMD, so shouldn't be a big deal.

Blake Lowry
#10
08/17/2006 (3:43 pm)
Ya, I had the problem, just download the latest drivers from AMD if it acts strange. It fixed it for me.

Torque Owner Cliff
#11
08/17/2006 (5:28 pm)
Wedge - Ah, OK, cool. Thanks. I was kinda worrying that my new dev box wasn't going to be useful to me or somethin'. That's a load off my mind.