Torque Shader Engine being pirated

#81 Anton:
the majority of the people successfully making torque games are not here bantering on the forums.

so alot of the stuff you read is from the perspective you mentioned.
you seem to be missing a large portion of the people here with that statement.
and infact you are only selecting a small set of the people here.

Quote:I came here thinking this was a place to make games. Then after a while I realised that it was a place to talk about making games but was filled with people who want to make games but are just struggling. Now I've realised that it's just a place to talk about making games.

I for one am not currently making a torque game, I am here to help others if I can (mostly noobs tho right)
so I spend sometime in the meaningless posts having fun, and socializing, another thing this great site is for.
to build relationships in the independant game industry.


because I dont have alot of time for it, between family and work I have only time for games and One other game at a time, and this one is not using Torque.

so there you have it.
someone who dont really care, stating the obvious for ya.

alot of people are making great games with this engine which it is fully capable of doing.

you have to realize the average person standing there saying some software or programming is stupid.
is usually a moron himself instead and does not understand the program / software.

#82 I heard an executive give a talk about research into thefts at their retail chain. He stated the following:
~20% of people will ALWAYS try to steal from you.
~70% will steal if they are given the right opportunity with the right justification.
~10% will NEVER try to steal from you no matter the opportunity or the justification.

I've noticed lots of justification & opportunity options (warez or pirate sites) listed above. It just means you're part of the 70% who found the right opportunity and justification.

When studying criminal justification, it usually is justified that you are more important then the people you are stealing from. The justification also usually involves turning the people you are stealing from into 'objects' that won't be hurt by your theft or deserve to be stolen from.

I know programmers who are fully capable of writing thier own game engine, but would prefer to steal. Ultimately, criminals are not all poor stupids saps who frequent warez sites. Most criminal behavior has relatively little to do with intellectual capacity, skill sets, or economic prosperity. However, smarter and richer criminals are better are not getting caught, and when they are, at paying lawyers to defend them.

For those of us in the 10% who will NEVER steal from anyone (including Bill Gates if he dropped a $20 while leaving McDonalds), we are a lonely group who at first scream an the moral bankruptcy of those that aren't like us, then we become discontent and moderately angry, and ultimately just study the statistics & hope to find a way to 'encourage' the rest of society to be more like us.

Anti-piracy protection on software, music, etc. and marketing campaigns targeting pirating are meant to remove the opportunity and justification for the 70%. Some even go further to try and prevent the 20% from stealing from you. If you are able to prevent them, they often end up trying to steal from someone else who has your stuff, rather than you. Really good protection & prevention can prevent around 95-99% of total thefts, but such increased measures also increase the cost of developing and implementing them. Ultimately, you come to the point where you decide how much is good enough, and where your return on investment drops dramatically. I think Garage Games has reached a good balance. If we notify them of specific problems, they will probably be able to address the biggest ones that are easiest to prevent.

#83 This person i knew knew a bunch of these pirate sites. he showed me how to download Pirates of the Carribean (1) three weeks before it was in theaters. it made me sick and i did not like how these movie companies are losing millions of dollars to these thieves. Trust me, i am the %10.

#84 ROFL...
you guys and you ego's.
cannot even own up to your own shit or what..
like hell you are the ten percect..
bullshit that ten percent even exists.

I've never meet them and I have meet thousands.

just where do you draw the line on that 10%???
stealing a parking spot???
stealing a spot in line???

get honest is all I ask.

honestly is more important than your false integrity.

#85 @Badguy

add stealing your friend's joint when he has to go outside to take a piss.

also stealing shopping carts when you remember that you walked to the corner grocery store and bought too much to carry home.

what about when you claim that you solved the math problem on the wall at MIT and really it was the parole janitor kid.

don't forget stealing your best friend's mistress and wife and sister for a foursome on halloween.

and the always diabolical stealing of the american flags on the president's limo when he visits.

worst of all stealing the unfinished bag of popcorn and the soda that people leave after a movie.

but none as bad as stealing cable.

#86 This is so not worth getting worked up over at all.

#87 @Anton

They told me that they didn't tell *ANYONE*! You gotta believe me that I don't usually dress up like Sailor Moon, only on Halloween (and Thursdays)...You didn't see the pictures...did you? Oh, man...

#88 @Alan James

ROFL!!!!