Torque Compatible with Windows 64 Edition
by Stacey Mickens · in General Discussion · 03/06/2006 (7:37 am) · 15 replies
I was wondering if Torque is setup to work with 64 bit. Cause when I was on Windows XP Professional it was moving too fast and now that I got Windows 64 Edition it moves like CRAP(<-not the word I really want to use). I had updated being that they said Windows 64 would utilize my 64 processor chip better. But torque is so slow. It's basically hicupping in this Windows Edition. Is there a patch to make it work with the 64 bit edition?
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#2
03/06/2006 (8:14 am)
How disappointing. :( Thanks for the info tho.
#3
Of course Torque run as a 32 bit app not 64 but I did not see any problem and see only performance gain but my previous system was 1.3gb Win2k system with 750mb ram so it's not hard to get better ;)
03/06/2006 (8:51 am)
Stacey, I run and compile Torque on Win XP x64 and it run fine on my side. I have an AMD 64 4000+, 2gb ram and Nvidia 6800GT. Of course Torque run as a 32 bit app not 64 but I did not see any problem and see only performance gain but my previous system was 1.3gb Win2k system with 750mb ram so it's not hard to get better ;)
#4
03/06/2006 (9:19 am)
Another thing to consider, and also the biggest reason I haven't updated to XP64 yet, is that the driver support from vendors is not very mature yet. Until that area has some time to develop, performance is likely to suffer.
#5
32-bit applications, such as torque run in a 32-bit "wrapper" application environment similar to NTVDMs present in the 32-bit versions of Windows. You may find a slight performance hit if the machine has lower end video/sound cards, I have not tested this with games just enterprise applications. This is caused by the application needing to make calls from the "wrapper" environment throught the 64-bit subsystems and finally to the harware abstraction layer (HAL). I hope this answered your question.
03/06/2006 (9:34 am)
Stacey,32-bit applications, such as torque run in a 32-bit "wrapper" application environment similar to NTVDMs present in the 32-bit versions of Windows. You may find a slight performance hit if the machine has lower end video/sound cards, I have not tested this with games just enterprise applications. This is caused by the application needing to make calls from the "wrapper" environment throught the 64-bit subsystems and finally to the harware abstraction layer (HAL). I hope this answered your question.
#6
03/06/2006 (9:39 am)
@ David-you are semi right on the the 64-bit version of Windows not being released. There are vendor specific versions, such as for Dell that is shipped with their 64-bit machines. This is similar to the way Windows DataCenter was vendor specific. As far as a consumer version, you are correct in that nothing has been released as of yet. 
#7
I was talking about a specific patch for TGE rather than Win 64, but regardless, the release information is good to know. I do know we've been testing it here at work for some time, but I haven't been a part fo that process.
03/06/2006 (9:41 am)
@JonI was talking about a specific patch for TGE rather than Win 64, but regardless, the release information is good to know. I do know we've been testing it here at work for some time, but I haven't been a part fo that process.
#8
03/06/2006 (10:14 am)
@ David gotcha, sorry I thought you meant Windows. 
#9
Were you using the out-of-the-box Torque-executable or did you recompiling it on your 64-bit machine. Simply recompiling it in a 64-bit environment may be the only fix you need for now. Check your compiler though, you may need to change a compiler option to get 64-bit binaries.
Just a guess, but a good place to start!
03/06/2006 (10:58 am)
@Stacey,Were you using the out-of-the-box Torque-executable or did you recompiling it on your 64-bit machine. Simply recompiling it in a 64-bit environment may be the only fix you need for now. Check your compiler though, you may need to change a compiler option to get 64-bit binaries.
Just a guess, but a good place to start!
#10
I really didn't have problems with drivers except for anything HP. How disappointing they had no drivers for the 64-bit. Actually I got window xp pro 64 from Newegg.com with the purchase of all my other parts.
03/06/2006 (12:18 pm)
My system specs is a Amd 64 x2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ 1 GB of ram and a Nvidia 6800 GS. I was using out of box I didn't recompile once I installed it I just wanted to test to see if it work. Maybe that is what I should do. Thx guys. I really didn't have problems with drivers except for anything HP. How disappointing they had no drivers for the 64-bit. Actually I got window xp pro 64 from Newegg.com with the purchase of all my other parts.
#11
Have you tried running other games on this system and what is the performance?
Moving like crap do you mean it's choppy with low framerate?
03/06/2006 (2:43 pm)
It should run it fine in 32 bit mode. There is something else going on here. Have you tried running other games on this system and what is the performance?
Moving like crap do you mean it's choppy with low framerate?
#12
There should be no driver compatibility issues unless your hardware vendor refuses to support it (those companies are usually the cheaper ones, some Wireless Network card makers and almost every Video Input card makers)
If you have a legal copy of Windows XP proffesional, Microsoft will trade it for x64 edition for free.
03/06/2006 (11:12 pm)
Torque has problems with Dual Core Processors, but runs fine on i86-64 processors running Windows x64 edition (which has been released for a few months now).There should be no driver compatibility issues unless your hardware vendor refuses to support it (those companies are usually the cheaper ones, some Wireless Network card makers and almost every Video Input card makers)
If you have a legal copy of Windows XP proffesional, Microsoft will trade it for x64 edition for free.
#14
03/06/2006 (11:34 pm)
Ya, I had problems with my Dual Core till Josh gave me those drivers a while back...works flawlessly now.
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