Intel 65nm CPU's coming soon
by Vashner · in General Discussion · 12/19/2005 (3:30 am) · 7 replies
Another round of up to 24 new Intel 65nm CPU's are coming out starting early next year till 2008.
www.tgdaily.com/2005/12/16/intel_65nm_production/
www.tgdaily.com/2005/12/16/intel_65nm_production/
Quote:recent visit to Intel's D1D fab, we were able to get a sneak peak at the firms efforts and talked to some of the engineers working responsible for preparing new processors for mass production.
Today, a typical processor is developed within a period of 24 to 32 months, down from about 48 months a decade ago. The search for errors in the semiconductor design and manufacturing takes place during this research development phase, but also throughout the time the CPU is commercially available. While error detection and correction is the main task during development, engineers typically focus on enhancements to the design during a chip's product cycle.
Intel's Technology and Development Group (TD) is responsible for finding errors and getting them fixed. If a problem is reported, there are engineers who often will have to find that one individual transistor that is causing the problem, describing the issue to the designer who then is able to correct it. While testing is largely automated and the general problem usually hints to a certain area into a chip, the sheer amount of transistors - 1.7 billion in the future Itanium 2 CPU - create a perfect needle in a haystack problem.
The process of finding and correcting an error typically is referred to as "nano surgery", which involves corrections in semiconductors that involve structures smaller than 10 nm. Markus Kuhn, group leader in Intel's Technology and Development Group, told us that the firm currently can see down to a 5 nm level. "What we do is basically trying to control atoms on a surface level," he said.
This appears not to be exaggerated considering the fact that it is atoms which are influencing production yields and bringing a variation in output to semiconductor manufacturing. Steven Megli, co-plant manager of Intel's Fab 12 in Chandler, Ariz., mentioned that it can be simply a difference in humidity between the factory where a manufacturing process was developed and a facility which tries to duplicate that process that causes substantial differences in yield. "We spent weeks to create the same air quality in Chandler as we have it in Oregon," he said. While the firm aims for exactly duplicating a manufacturing environment in multiple locations around the world, Megli conceded that this is an impossible task, as individual unexpected atoms floating in the air can disrupt production yields. "We are happy if we can achieve about 90 percent of the exact same environment," he told us.
#2
02/12/2006 (9:19 am)
I can't wait.
#3
Intel makes an announcment then AMD makes a like product. Seems to me Intel still leading the way big time.
They don't make announcments like that unless they have running modules.
It's an MCM package anyway.. Multi chip.. no one ever said it had to be 2.
Some have 3-8 or more IC's.
The original MCM's where all developed to reduce main circuit board IC and chassis sizes.
02/12/2006 (9:25 am)
Vapor ware? When has intel not delivered? AMD is doing what it always has. Wait and copy.Intel makes an announcment then AMD makes a like product. Seems to me Intel still leading the way big time.
They don't make announcments like that unless they have running modules.
It's an MCM package anyway.. Multi chip.. no one ever said it had to be 2.
Some have 3-8 or more IC's.
The original MCM's where all developed to reduce main circuit board IC and chassis sizes.
#4
I may be wrong. (I like intel better non the less)
02/12/2006 (10:19 am)
Wasn't AMD the first to make a desktop 64bit CPU with 32bit emulation?I may be wrong. (I like intel better non the less)
#5
amd64 is a much better solution, props to amd for deving it. (but the point is, they are not first ;)
02/12/2006 (12:41 pm)
@Matt, actually intel was first with ia64, though it is a piece of crap, with crappy 32bit emulation.amd64 is a much better solution, props to amd for deving it. (but the point is, they are not first ;)
#6
04/13/2006 (8:33 am)
In the world of the tech saavy where performance trumps timing ... AMD might not be first out the door but they are getting the props for having the better solution. The fight continues ...
#7
(sorry, I'm a bit of an AMD guy.)
I personally skipped the whole "OMG TWO CORES IM A GAMER CSS WILL USE TWO CORES HL2" thing, it was just a hunk of expensive crap for most consumers/developers. Four Cores? There I may be interested, But I'll probably wade out this bout aswell.
In ten years, cores will be phased out. Then we'll have RAW PROCESSING POWWAAH!
04/13/2006 (4:19 pm)
Intel was the ia64 with no 32-bit emulation, AMD had the superior x86-64, with great 32-bit emulation. Then intel stole AMD's architecture and said 'No, We're totally not running out of ideas for 32-bit emulation'.(sorry, I'm a bit of an AMD guy.)
I personally skipped the whole "OMG TWO CORES IM A GAMER CSS WILL USE TWO CORES HL2" thing, it was just a hunk of expensive crap for most consumers/developers. Four Cores? There I may be interested, But I'll probably wade out this bout aswell.
In ten years, cores will be phased out. Then we'll have RAW PROCESSING POWWAAH!
Torque Owner BigPapa
Quad-core? Talk about vapor-ware.