Good Music Program?
by Dylan Jones · in Technical Issues · 11/29/2005 (3:53 am) · 7 replies
I am a big user of Fruity Loops, which is the best tool for electronic/techno/house style of music, but for classical it sounds to synthy, does anyone know of a program that can recreate classical instrumets extremely well and can render a mp3?
like strings, and timpanis, and all that good stuff?
like strings, and timpanis, and all that good stuff?
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#2
Or is there a better squencer?
What program do I use for the East-West sounds? and keep that level of quality?
11/29/2005 (8:06 am)
Hey thanks Drew! those from the East-West Sound amazing! if I were to buy this would I be able to use the samples in fruity loops?Or is there a better squencer?
What program do I use for the East-West sounds? and keep that level of quality?
#3
11/29/2005 (8:12 am)
It would be better to find one that exports PCM audio and then use a conversion program that lets you tweak your compression settings for MP3's. The compression settings can do very strange things to the tonal quality of held notes. I was going to mention GPO, but it looks like Drew beat me to it. It's a pretty nice little package. I haven't used EWSO, but I've heard some excellent stuff from people who have used it (of course, that's also like saying I've seen excellent stuff from people who use Maya so if anyone buys Maya, they'll do excellent work). If you have a Mac, the symphony add-on for GarageBand is a nice, low-cost solution (not nearly at the same quality as GPO, though). You would need a good midi keyboard with a sustain pedal (or more than one that you can split instruments out to) to maintain quality, though.
#4
11/29/2005 (8:17 am)
What appilication do I need to get to use these sounds, and compose a song?
#5
Do a search on Google for "music sequencer" or "sequencer VST", that might give you some results. Also, the "virtual instruments" come in different file formats to be used with different programs. So VST works with Cubase and some others, then there are different file formats that go with different sequences. GPO packaged together a few, so you'll want to be sure they have the right kind of file format you need for the sequencer you get. For instance, I don't think GPO supports Gigastudio (but I could be wrong)
By the way, that's a good call from Davild to export high quality first before compressing to MP3 to check out your work.
11/29/2005 (8:18 am)
For sequencing there are a lot of choices out there. I mostly use Cubase. Reason is really good, but that's more expensive and they also have proprietary instruments packs (GPO will not work with them, I believe). I think Cubase may have a light version that is more affordable. There could be other free sequencers out there that can run GPO or Symphonic Orchestra, but I haven't looked into them.Do a search on Google for "music sequencer" or "sequencer VST", that might give you some results. Also, the "virtual instruments" come in different file formats to be used with different programs. So VST works with Cubase and some others, then there are different file formats that go with different sequences. GPO packaged together a few, so you'll want to be sure they have the right kind of file format you need for the sequencer you get. For instance, I don't think GPO supports Gigastudio (but I could be wrong)
By the way, that's a good call from Davild to export high quality first before compressing to MP3 to check out your work.
#6
I think I need to export the music to .wav for torque
I have Fruity Loops Producers Edition, and it supports DXi , VTS, VTSi.
Should I get a medicore sound with that puppy?
11/29/2005 (8:22 am)
Thanks guys! :)I think I need to export the music to .wav for torque
I have Fruity Loops Producers Edition, and it supports DXi , VTS, VTSi.
Should I get a medicore sound with that puppy?
#7
I used to use Mackie Tracktion2 a lot, I've switched to energyXT as my host since it's infinitely flexible. I can compose a song and render the whole affair into a .wav, then compress to .ogg with a few of my external programs.
I might suggest, if you're looking for info on VST/VSTi and hosts, you run, not walk to:
http://www.kvraudio.com
..which specializes in virtual instruments and effects. The reviews and forums alone are worth the visit.
As with most things, I think you'll discover that it's not the host so much as it's how you use effects, your compositional skills, and decent source material. There are some almost decent free orchestral soundfonts but if you're looking for good quality, stick with GPO or East-West.
11/29/2005 (9:34 am)
Your host won't have that large an effect on the sound of the VSTi unless you're using something with a really crappy summing bus, FL Producer should be fine with GPO or East-West. You may have some input issues as IIRC FL is very pattern-oriented and might not be the best host for more long-form projects, but there's no reason in the world it wouldn't work.I used to use Mackie Tracktion2 a lot, I've switched to energyXT as my host since it's infinitely flexible. I can compose a song and render the whole affair into a .wav, then compress to .ogg with a few of my external programs.
I might suggest, if you're looking for info on VST/VSTi and hosts, you run, not walk to:
http://www.kvraudio.com
..which specializes in virtual instruments and effects. The reviews and forums alone are worth the visit.
As with most things, I think you'll discover that it's not the host so much as it's how you use effects, your compositional skills, and decent source material. There are some almost decent free orchestral soundfonts but if you're looking for good quality, stick with GPO or East-West.
Torque 3D Owner Drew Parker
You can also try East-West Symphonic Orchestra, Silver Edition (about 300, 150 on discount). This also has quite good string and symphony sounds. For a small budget and high quality, these 2 seem to be the best, but there may be others out there.
These run in their own little programs (don't know if you can export mp3), but can also be run as VST instruments in other programs like Cubase (which can export mp3). They probably have a list on their website about what other programs they are compatible with.
Good luck!
- Drew