A Great New Idea........
by Danny · in Game Design and Creative Issues · 05/26/2005 (10:27 am) · 41 replies
Well where to start.....hmm...
well there is an idea i have for a game a brillant game one that would of never been made and a game where there is total freedom and unlimited possiblitys and no one telling you that you have to do this that way or this way and saying you have to go here and there.... and a game where you can do anything you want and anyway you want and however you want to do it and the game last for a long time maybe even years ;)
i wan the game to be just like it would be in real life medevil times so instead of being just a game it would be like steping through a time machine back to the medevil times and witness the feel of war and what its like to be a slave or a mighty king or a priest or a holy knight be anymedevil kind of person you want this way you could realy witness what its like to be a hardworking blacksmith or a humble knight or a priest or what its like to be a king... i love the histroy of medevil times and i would realy love to step back intime instead of just reading about it or seeing it in the movies all the time i would like to be able to see it and witness it formyself and im shure others would too but we cant its gone and dead..... but maybe with the creation of this game we could realy see what it was like and what it felt like to be in the medevil times.... sorry i got a bit carried away there.... anyways on with my idea......
Ok the idea starts off in old medevil times where people used swords and bows and arrows and heros were born and kings and queens rulled the land...
anyways when you first start the game you dont start of with a premade character and a simple role as a swordsman or archer or something like that like the other games do....
instead you get to choose your own from an unlimeted variety... choose how old you want to be what you want to look like and choose a family you would like whether you want one or not ....and best of all you get to choose a medevil carrea instead of just an archer or swordsman this way you can experiance
what i mean by a medevil carrear is you can choose from being a humple pesant or a hardworking blacksmith or a poor beggar or a young son of a mighty eveil or good hearted barron or be a king... this way u can feel and understand what its like to be that kind of person feel the troubles and the joy they went through and feel the losses of battles and other things...
when you start a new game and choose a carrear and a character what he looks like what his traits and attributes are and what hes star sign is and other stuff and if he wants a family or not and his age...you then choose witch part of europe you would like to live at (yes you dont start of in a small kingdom you start in any plcae you want i did say a freeworld with total freedom...) and then you choose witch town you want to live in and you choose witch house you want to live at....(depending on starting money)
then your game begins... if your a blacksmith and are above the age of 16 then the first thing you must do is find a job to make money to pay for your rent for your house to buy food and clothes to wear and to spend on furniture and taxes if your below the age of 16 say for example 3-15 you get the option to go to school and you have to have an adult to look after you..... and if you go to school you get to choose what you want to learn... as you get older you learn more things witch would be good for the future when you want to get a job.... you can make many friends at school too witch would be good for the future to ;) (remember it takes a long time to be able to grow up... probaly a few real life weeks... withc would keep you busy instead of just an hour or so and your an adult... )
well there is an idea i have for a game a brillant game one that would of never been made and a game where there is total freedom and unlimited possiblitys and no one telling you that you have to do this that way or this way and saying you have to go here and there.... and a game where you can do anything you want and anyway you want and however you want to do it and the game last for a long time maybe even years ;)
i wan the game to be just like it would be in real life medevil times so instead of being just a game it would be like steping through a time machine back to the medevil times and witness the feel of war and what its like to be a slave or a mighty king or a priest or a holy knight be anymedevil kind of person you want this way you could realy witness what its like to be a hardworking blacksmith or a humble knight or a priest or what its like to be a king... i love the histroy of medevil times and i would realy love to step back intime instead of just reading about it or seeing it in the movies all the time i would like to be able to see it and witness it formyself and im shure others would too but we cant its gone and dead..... but maybe with the creation of this game we could realy see what it was like and what it felt like to be in the medevil times.... sorry i got a bit carried away there.... anyways on with my idea......
Ok the idea starts off in old medevil times where people used swords and bows and arrows and heros were born and kings and queens rulled the land...
anyways when you first start the game you dont start of with a premade character and a simple role as a swordsman or archer or something like that like the other games do....
instead you get to choose your own from an unlimeted variety... choose how old you want to be what you want to look like and choose a family you would like whether you want one or not ....and best of all you get to choose a medevil carrea instead of just an archer or swordsman this way you can experiance
what i mean by a medevil carrear is you can choose from being a humple pesant or a hardworking blacksmith or a poor beggar or a young son of a mighty eveil or good hearted barron or be a king... this way u can feel and understand what its like to be that kind of person feel the troubles and the joy they went through and feel the losses of battles and other things...
when you start a new game and choose a carrear and a character what he looks like what his traits and attributes are and what hes star sign is and other stuff and if he wants a family or not and his age...you then choose witch part of europe you would like to live at (yes you dont start of in a small kingdom you start in any plcae you want i did say a freeworld with total freedom...) and then you choose witch town you want to live in and you choose witch house you want to live at....(depending on starting money)
then your game begins... if your a blacksmith and are above the age of 16 then the first thing you must do is find a job to make money to pay for your rent for your house to buy food and clothes to wear and to spend on furniture and taxes if your below the age of 16 say for example 3-15 you get the option to go to school and you have to have an adult to look after you..... and if you go to school you get to choose what you want to learn... as you get older you learn more things witch would be good for the future when you want to get a job.... you can make many friends at school too witch would be good for the future to ;) (remember it takes a long time to be able to grow up... probaly a few real life weeks... withc would keep you busy instead of just an hour or so and your an adult... )
#2
on your own land you will have to make houses and farms to feed the people and mills and lumber mills to get wood to build houses and stone to make great castles and builings and walls....
when you make buildings in this game it will not just take a few mins but maybe a few real life game days depending on waht it is ur building thatw ay it would make it more real and the game longer....
and when you have people that work for you collecting wood or working on farms dont forget they are real people too just like us.... they have therir own lifes they need to shop and get food and have familys and fun just like we do in real life.... and what ever job they have they may get better at it after a long time and be able to do much more faster and better.....
as for you knights or soldeirs or town millitia to protect the town you will have to make a barracks and a traing ground for them to train on just like you trainned on.... you will be able to visit it and see how well your soldiers are doing and perhaps teach them a few things and interact with them....
and when the troops get trained up (will take a long time depening on age and other things) you will be able to give them orders like to protect your lands or keep watch and keep the peace... you will also be able to upgrade the barracks and have to build a blacksmith place with the right things to make tools and put up adds to show you want to hire a blacksmith... to work there to make weapons and armour for your armys... and as the game gets along you will get the chance to train special units that have done well to make tehm into knights witch will be your body gaurds or elite units.... (but remember they have lifes just like us in real life)
with all these people you see and work with or have hired... you cant talk to anyperson you see and ask anything you want... and if you have a good realatioship witht hat person you may get special bonuses for example if yur good friends with a trader you may get goods cheaper.....
and if you have knigts and soldiers you must talk with them so they get to know you and who they are realy fighting and dieing for this would greatly improve their skill and would more likely stand and fight than tun against you and even risk hsi life for yours s because hes good friends with you...
with travel and freedom... you can go anywhere in europe you want... but you will need a bot if u have to travel across water or have a horse to trave long distances....
when you travel it takes a long time (to make it more lifelike) and you get to travel through big grasslands or valleys or forests.. but everywhere you go you mighthave to watch out for bandits or wild animals ready to attack.... you can go fromengland to france and from france to russia and so on...
05/26/2005 (10:33 am)
Back the the carrear... when you have been doing it for a long time and done well and been promoted to general or commander and so on... you may even become a barron and have your own land and your own knights.....on your own land you will have to make houses and farms to feed the people and mills and lumber mills to get wood to build houses and stone to make great castles and builings and walls....
when you make buildings in this game it will not just take a few mins but maybe a few real life game days depending on waht it is ur building thatw ay it would make it more real and the game longer....
and when you have people that work for you collecting wood or working on farms dont forget they are real people too just like us.... they have therir own lifes they need to shop and get food and have familys and fun just like we do in real life.... and what ever job they have they may get better at it after a long time and be able to do much more faster and better.....
as for you knights or soldeirs or town millitia to protect the town you will have to make a barracks and a traing ground for them to train on just like you trainned on.... you will be able to visit it and see how well your soldiers are doing and perhaps teach them a few things and interact with them....
and when the troops get trained up (will take a long time depening on age and other things) you will be able to give them orders like to protect your lands or keep watch and keep the peace... you will also be able to upgrade the barracks and have to build a blacksmith place with the right things to make tools and put up adds to show you want to hire a blacksmith... to work there to make weapons and armour for your armys... and as the game gets along you will get the chance to train special units that have done well to make tehm into knights witch will be your body gaurds or elite units.... (but remember they have lifes just like us in real life)
with all these people you see and work with or have hired... you cant talk to anyperson you see and ask anything you want... and if you have a good realatioship witht hat person you may get special bonuses for example if yur good friends with a trader you may get goods cheaper.....
and if you have knigts and soldiers you must talk with them so they get to know you and who they are realy fighting and dieing for this would greatly improve their skill and would more likely stand and fight than tun against you and even risk hsi life for yours s because hes good friends with you...
with travel and freedom... you can go anywhere in europe you want... but you will need a bot if u have to travel across water or have a horse to trave long distances....
when you travel it takes a long time (to make it more lifelike) and you get to travel through big grasslands or valleys or forests.. but everywhere you go you mighthave to watch out for bandits or wild animals ready to attack.... you can go fromengland to france and from france to russia and so on...
#3
two big lines of thousands of troops and a big gap in the middle seprateing them all.... and because ur the leader you will have to ride to the middle to meet the other enemy learder your going to war with to discuss terms their surrender or pehps to just discuss something....
if you have allies they may enter the battle to help you depending on the alllience relations....
when you start the battle it will be just like in real life you can choose what u want to do and when and how and why no limits and you can do the things you have read about in the history books and beome someone great or fmous and witness battles just like you read about in history... and the battle would be just like real too....with archers shooting arrows and 1000s of troops all fighting untill no enemys left... and if you are in abttle you can decide what you want to do if its track down the enemy general and kill him or be a hero and help your troops and keep them alive....
if you manage to win many good battles get more troops and more fame and land you may even be able to claim urself king by killing the one in the country ur in and from there you can do anything in the land ur in and even make peace and rage war on other countrys to get more land or anything you want....
that pice there was only one carrear that was the carrear of war.... on other carrears you dont have to be a soldier and go to war you can be a humble trader own yor own businesses and work from there or be a monk or priest and not do the fighting part......there is a whole variety you could do and choose from.... you can do anything you want just like in real life..... real characters that act and do things just like us in real life... real jobs just like us and personalitys and goals just like us.... this would be a good game because we would be able to witness and feel what its like to be in the olden medevil times and feel what its like to live in those times..... ive not seen a single game in the world that has ever been made have the smallest part of what ive said here.... ive not seen a game with freedom to do what you want or how you want to do it......... if this game gets made i think it would proabably go down in the history books ... who knows maybe they would get rid of history books and use this to tell the history instead ;) i know it would be a one of a kind game that no one has ever seen befor..... it would truley magnificent....
why have games that can just be fun and waste a few hous when you can have games like this that could send you back to the past to witness life in medevil times....
thank you for reading and pleasse post your ideas ot thaughts thank you......
05/26/2005 (10:34 am)
With war... when you think you are strong enough and you have enough soldiers and men at arms... you might want to go to war to take over new lands or loot places or just kill people for the fun of it or to get rid of them... when you want to go to war with kings you may have to have special meetings and arrange certain stuff befor haveing a full scale war.... when you go to war with kigns it will be just like in real life....two big lines of thousands of troops and a big gap in the middle seprateing them all.... and because ur the leader you will have to ride to the middle to meet the other enemy learder your going to war with to discuss terms their surrender or pehps to just discuss something....
if you have allies they may enter the battle to help you depending on the alllience relations....
when you start the battle it will be just like in real life you can choose what u want to do and when and how and why no limits and you can do the things you have read about in the history books and beome someone great or fmous and witness battles just like you read about in history... and the battle would be just like real too....with archers shooting arrows and 1000s of troops all fighting untill no enemys left... and if you are in abttle you can decide what you want to do if its track down the enemy general and kill him or be a hero and help your troops and keep them alive....
if you manage to win many good battles get more troops and more fame and land you may even be able to claim urself king by killing the one in the country ur in and from there you can do anything in the land ur in and even make peace and rage war on other countrys to get more land or anything you want....
that pice there was only one carrear that was the carrear of war.... on other carrears you dont have to be a soldier and go to war you can be a humble trader own yor own businesses and work from there or be a monk or priest and not do the fighting part......there is a whole variety you could do and choose from.... you can do anything you want just like in real life..... real characters that act and do things just like us in real life... real jobs just like us and personalitys and goals just like us.... this would be a good game because we would be able to witness and feel what its like to be in the olden medevil times and feel what its like to live in those times..... ive not seen a single game in the world that has ever been made have the smallest part of what ive said here.... ive not seen a game with freedom to do what you want or how you want to do it......... if this game gets made i think it would proabably go down in the history books ... who knows maybe they would get rid of history books and use this to tell the history instead ;) i know it would be a one of a kind game that no one has ever seen befor..... it would truley magnificent....
why have games that can just be fun and waste a few hous when you can have games like this that could send you back to the past to witness life in medevil times....
thank you for reading and pleasse post your ideas ot thaughts thank you......
#4
05/26/2005 (10:35 am)
Great... Just delete the other 3 now.
#5
05/26/2005 (10:36 am)
Ok ive just clikced the trash can and it said sent to moderato to delet just gota wait for the others to be deletded
#6
05/26/2005 (11:03 am)
Danny that sounds like a good idea. ive also had the idea of game which mixes something like gta with animal crossing. it does sound like a cool idea, maybe a little too ambitious.
#7
be a mage/warlock and master the arts of magic & illussion.
Be a Tinker and master the arts of tapping items and makeing bombs
Be a warrior and master the art of fighter with many different types of melee weapons.
ect ...
very much fun to play, but i did not like hte idea of having to pay to consistanly play after i had paid $80 bucks for it.
Very Nice idea tho
05/26/2005 (11:04 am)
Hmmm, it is a good idea, i like it. But it sounds allot like what Ultima Online Is; a Persistant Online MMORPG with no set single player path. you start with the bare needed equipment and a few coins of gold to get you started, the type of character you make is totally up to you. be a mage/warlock and master the arts of magic & illussion.
Be a Tinker and master the arts of tapping items and makeing bombs
Be a warrior and master the art of fighter with many different types of melee weapons.
ect ...
very much fun to play, but i did not like hte idea of having to pay to consistanly play after i had paid $80 bucks for it.
Very Nice idea tho
#8
05/26/2005 (11:23 am)
I don't even know what to say. I haven't seen so much historical inaccuracy in once place...well, perhaps ever... This is an excellent example of how we project modern associations onto our interpretation of the past.
#9
05/26/2005 (12:35 pm)
I can't believe you guys actually read all this...
#10
im talking about being anything from a poor beggar to a king or an eveil baron or a priest or lanlord or an inkeeper..
and freedom i mean to be able to walk or ride from here to scotland or travel from france to italy across farms towns countrysides forests and woodlans and valleys that kind of freedom you dont see much of that in games
05/26/2005 (1:30 pm)
Hay when i say freedom and be anything you want i mean be anything you want and sory if my words and writeing is messed up had to rush it and go out...im talking about being anything from a poor beggar to a king or an eveil baron or a priest or lanlord or an inkeeper..
and freedom i mean to be able to walk or ride from here to scotland or travel from france to italy across farms towns countrysides forests and woodlans and valleys that kind of freedom you dont see much of that in games
#12
05/26/2005 (1:34 pm)
Danny, the idea is fine but I don't see any skills as a programmer listed. You do know that you can't just sell ideas right? How are you going to make the game? Its not about marketing...its about work. Oh, and check your spelling too. You won't look professional if you can't spell words like "career" correctly. Good luck though and keep thinking.
#13
ive got lots of sword replicas from many movies and even take sword lessons i know just about everything there is to know on the subject and know a lot about the troops weapons fighting styles and troop types and battle fomations they have and know a lot abbout the civilisations back then.... i know more than you think....
05/26/2005 (1:36 pm)
Lol historical inaccuracy... im a majour fan of the old medevil times where they had knights and swords and everything....ive got lots of sword replicas from many movies and even take sword lessons i know just about everything there is to know on the subject and know a lot about the troops weapons fighting styles and troop types and battle fomations they have and know a lot abbout the civilisations back then.... i know more than you think....
#14
05/26/2005 (2:16 pm)
With the exception of your development team- The first thing to do when you think you have a great game idea is to tell no one. 
#15
05/26/2005 (3:04 pm)
Bollocks, as if there were not enough good ideas floating around anyway. And Danny's not an idea in the first place. Its just a huge wish.
#16
I personally loved your immense knowledge of educational systems among the peasantry and your age-based education system. I bow to your superior knowledge and must take leave of your topic for the time being as I am about to pee my pants giggling.
05/26/2005 (4:31 pm)
Having a video membership at Blockbuster and the ability to swing a Highlander replica around your head, does not medieval scholarship make.I personally loved your immense knowledge of educational systems among the peasantry and your age-based education system. I bow to your superior knowledge and must take leave of your topic for the time being as I am about to pee my pants giggling.
Quote:With the exception of your development team- The first thing to do when you think you have a great game idea is to tell no one.That's assuming this is a great idea.
#17
Sorry, couldn't resist. :D
05/26/2005 (4:37 pm)
Funny that a "majour" fan can't even spell the word "medieval" correctly. ;)Sorry, couldn't resist. :D
#18
I found it difficult to follow your posts in the first place, due to the poor spelling, grammar, layout and prior research. If you want to convince others to contribute to this project you will need to improve in all of those areas.
To have any chance of completing a game such as you described in your lifetime, it would need to be text based and/or severely scaled down. The level of detail and the size of the playable area would be impractical otherwise.
The average commercial graphical CRPG has a playable area of perhaps 15 or 20 square miles and takes around 5 years to complete with a team of up to 80 full time developers, and you seem to want to throw in some RTS elements too.
Europe has an area of over 4,000,000 square miles (Italy alone is over 116,000 square miles).
You would also need to read a lot more historical documents on the mediaeval period rather than reading fiction or watching movies. The latter are particularly inaccurate. By the age of 16 it would be too late to choose a career, as you should have been an apprentice for the previous 5 or 6 years.
05/26/2005 (5:22 pm)
The following observations are intended to be constructive criticism:-I found it difficult to follow your posts in the first place, due to the poor spelling, grammar, layout and prior research. If you want to convince others to contribute to this project you will need to improve in all of those areas.
To have any chance of completing a game such as you described in your lifetime, it would need to be text based and/or severely scaled down. The level of detail and the size of the playable area would be impractical otherwise.
The average commercial graphical CRPG has a playable area of perhaps 15 or 20 square miles and takes around 5 years to complete with a team of up to 80 full time developers, and you seem to want to throw in some RTS elements too.
Europe has an area of over 4,000,000 square miles (Italy alone is over 116,000 square miles).
You would also need to read a lot more historical documents on the mediaeval period rather than reading fiction or watching movies. The latter are particularly inaccurate. By the age of 16 it would be too late to choose a career, as you should have been an apprentice for the previous 5 or 6 years.
#20
Building computer games, like anything else, is a lot of work! Are you ready for the immense commitment involved? I hope you are, you sound imaginative. My suggestion, whatever it's worth, is that you start by learning C++ or something like that. You may also want to look into downloading and learning to use Blender. It's free so you haven't lost much if you do change your mind. (There's a long list of other tools and stuff you'll end up looking at too...)
It's a long road, but if you want it bad enough to stick around, it is rewarding. :)
~sj
05/27/2005 (3:46 pm)
Wow! I'm reminded of the holodeck on TNG(Ah, fond memories of a favorite show). Depth is good, but... are you ready to spend the time and money to build that?Building computer games, like anything else, is a lot of work! Are you ready for the immense commitment involved? I hope you are, you sound imaginative. My suggestion, whatever it's worth, is that you start by learning C++ or something like that. You may also want to look into downloading and learning to use Blender. It's free so you haven't lost much if you do change your mind. (There's a long list of other tools and stuff you'll end up looking at too...)
It's a long road, but if you want it bad enough to stick around, it is rewarding. :)
~sj
Danny
you go to the city barracks and if the city dose not have you .. you may have to move to a city that dose... when you get to the barracks you then have to find the commander and convince him to let you join the army... if he says yes then you then begin your first carrear in medevil times..
when you start you only start as a begginer and you must train up as a soldier just like in real life medevil times.... you need to train with the other troops and listen to your superiors... this may take a long time (in real life time perhaps a few weeks) but when you have finished training you become a simple troop in the kings army and from there you follow your betallion everywhere...
when the army gose to do missions you will go along with them because ur a soldier and you will do things like normal soldiers have to do protect the king or gaurd certain things...
when you go to battle it will be just like in real life (you will be in first or third person view) you wont just have a few people to fight or be byurself like in most games...
it will be just like in real life
you will be with 1000s of other troops just like you standing on the battlefield you and the other troops will get orders and you will have to follow them out.... you will fight many people and if you got good swordfigting skills you will last a long time.... when you go into battle it will be just like in real life.... you will be surrounded by thousands of people all fighting ach other and arrows raing down from the sky people shouting in fear and pain people dieing and people battleing just like in real life and you will have to fight the enemy untill there is no one left... if you manage to kill lots of people in battle and impress the general that your a good warrior he will then promote you to something good and you will be a commander and give orders to troops just like the commander gave to you... and you can join in the battles and your troops will like you more and think your not a coward who just gives orders and there skill will be slightly better or you could just give the orders and watch the battle from a hill or a clifftop...
the carrear is not the onlything you do when not fighting you will be able to visit inns and make friends listen to music watch plays or go shopping or go to an arena to see a battle going on... it will be just like a real life day but in a game... they would do the same things we do in real life.... and if you have ur own house (instead of staying at the barracks) you have to pay takes and rent and you get the option to sell it or buy things for it or perhaps just live there .... as you get older you will also have to think about makeing a family because when you die of disease or old age or something... you will need someone else to control or use...