We'd still be playing Pong without WHOM?
by Jay Barnson · in General Discussion · 03/08/2005 (12:42 pm) · 82 replies
Okay. I wanted to rant a little bit. This ad for the University of Advancing Technology has been in Game Developer Magazine for a while, and it really bugs the crap out of me.
I guess we need to change Mount Rushmore and replace a couple of presidential mugs with this guy, and Al Gore (who invented the Internet, remember).
I tend to agree with Chris Crawford, who describes the role of these schools as "cranking out foot soldiers for the games industry." Evidently they don't teach much of the history of the game industry, or this kid wouldn't be so quick to put himself - with an Unreal Tournament mod to his credit - in the same category as such pioneers a Nolan Bushnell, Toshihiro Nishikado, Ed Logg, Eugene Jarvis, Toru Iwatani, David Crane, Richard Garriott, Will Wright, Sid Meier, Chris Crawford, Steve Wozniak, Jordan Mechner, and Shigeru Miyamoto.
No offense against modders, who do some really cool work and have some great ideas, but when you are standing on the shoulders of giants it's impolite to do your victory dance on their faces. It may just be the marketing department putting words in Mr. Hartlieb's mouth, but still... It comes off as incredibly arrogant, ignorant, and puts me off towards the school in general. What ARE they teaching the kids these days???
(Now hold on while I grab my cane, put in my teeth, and yell at those kids who are in my yard again...)
I guess we need to change Mount Rushmore and replace a couple of presidential mugs with this guy, and Al Gore (who invented the Internet, remember).
I tend to agree with Chris Crawford, who describes the role of these schools as "cranking out foot soldiers for the games industry." Evidently they don't teach much of the history of the game industry, or this kid wouldn't be so quick to put himself - with an Unreal Tournament mod to his credit - in the same category as such pioneers a Nolan Bushnell, Toshihiro Nishikado, Ed Logg, Eugene Jarvis, Toru Iwatani, David Crane, Richard Garriott, Will Wright, Sid Meier, Chris Crawford, Steve Wozniak, Jordan Mechner, and Shigeru Miyamoto.
No offense against modders, who do some really cool work and have some great ideas, but when you are standing on the shoulders of giants it's impolite to do your victory dance on their faces. It may just be the marketing department putting words in Mr. Hartlieb's mouth, but still... It comes off as incredibly arrogant, ignorant, and puts me off towards the school in general. What ARE they teaching the kids these days???
(Now hold on while I grab my cane, put in my teeth, and yell at those kids who are in my yard again...)
About the author
Jay has been a mainstream and indie game developer for a... uh, long time. His professional start came in 1994 developing titles for the then-unknown and upcoming Sony Playstation. He runs Rampant Games and blogs at Tales of the Rampant Coyote.
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Could'nt disagree with you more. Then again, you don't care.
To me, the internet is the best place for debate. It gives you a chance to see exactly what people are trying to say and gives you the time you wouldn't normally have to give a decent argument.
I've learned a lot about people because of mediums like this.
Then again, that's just me
04/20/2005 (3:23 pm)
Chris, Could'nt disagree with you more. Then again, you don't care.
To me, the internet is the best place for debate. It gives you a chance to see exactly what people are trying to say and gives you the time you wouldn't normally have to give a decent argument.
I've learned a lot about people because of mediums like this.
Then again, that's just me
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There is also Marketting involved in a name for some people however which tends to be a seperate entity all in itself, case in point John Romero, although sometimes it's hard to distinguish the real person from the "public eye" person. What's in a name anyhow? It's all about what you bring to the table... ;-)