Alt Tab crash
by Eric Hartman · in Torque Game Engine · 02/19/2005 (3:37 am) · 10 replies
This has been brought up before, but I was wondering if anyone has found a solution yet. When you switch to another program the game just exits without throwing up a message or anything. Doing a debug reveals an access violation and various calls to NTDLL! gibberish in the call stack. The bug occurs in the latest head and in the 1.3 demo. In my opinion, this bug is a show stopper and needs to be addressed.
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#2
02/19/2005 (4:48 pm)
I can't get this to reproduce. :(
#3
02/19/2005 (7:02 pm)
I'm running windows 2000 with a radeon 9800 pro latest drivers. All I have to do is switch out of torque, back, and out again and it crashes every single time. Is there a way to get Visual C++ to keep a longer call stack record? Or some other way to trace where this is coming from?
#4
02/19/2005 (7:20 pm)
Ok if I disable the sound it doesn't do it. So it must have something to do with the sound. 
#5
02/20/2005 (12:11 am)
Or your sound drivers, or something. :) Are you all up-to-date w/ your sound drivers too? What kind of sound system do you have?
#6
02/20/2005 (7:55 pm)
I have a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz sound card. I was running the latest Microsoft signed drivers that they had, but i just upgraded to a newer, unsigned driver and the problem still happens. 
#7
Reproducibility: Always
Severity: Very annoying!
Platform: WinXp
Card: ATI 8500 All in Wonder
Drivers: Latest for OGL, DX, ATI.
I have the same problem and I don't think it's related to the sound card at all.
I spend hours in Torque and once in a while I'll forget and Alt-tab out and it still runs, but it's when you want to come back into torque that it messes up.
We've just had a Devathon here and one of our team was using Win200+Nvidia and could alt-tab correctly - But on WinXp it doesn't with ATI cards. A problem in both OGL & DX, but DX actually switchs back, and then crashs, as to OGL which just crashes.
Toby.
03/08/2005 (7:06 am)
Engine: TGE 1.3Reproducibility: Always
Severity: Very annoying!
Platform: WinXp
Card: ATI 8500 All in Wonder
Drivers: Latest for OGL, DX, ATI.
I have the same problem and I don't think it's related to the sound card at all.
I spend hours in Torque and once in a while I'll forget and Alt-tab out and it still runs, but it's when you want to come back into torque that it messes up.
We've just had a Devathon here and one of our team was using Win200+Nvidia and could alt-tab correctly - But on WinXp it doesn't with ATI cards. A problem in both OGL & DX, but DX actually switchs back, and then crashs, as to OGL which just crashes.
Toby.
#8
GeForce 6800 OC
SoundBlaster Live!
Latest Drivers on everything.
Alt-tab works great.
03/08/2005 (7:16 am)
WinXP HomeGeForce 6800 OC
SoundBlaster Live!
Latest Drivers on everything.
Alt-tab works great.
#9
Edit: Ah, sound. That's when OpenAL deactivates when you minimize your TGE session. I seem to remember this is when you have a newer (yes actually) version of the OpenAL dll in your TGE folder, might have been older - cant remember.
Second Edit: Abit Built-in Soundcard/Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2 Platinum/Creative SoundBlaster 128.
03/08/2005 (7:39 am)
I cant get this to reproduce on any of our test machines at all, actually. Win2k/XP/MEEdit: Ah, sound. That's when OpenAL deactivates when you minimize your TGE session. I seem to remember this is when you have a newer (yes actually) version of the OpenAL dll in your TGE folder, might have been older - cant remember.
Second Edit: Abit Built-in Soundcard/Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2 Platinum/Creative SoundBlaster 128.
#10
Toby.
03/08/2005 (7:45 am)
Which cards do the machines have? I think its more related to a card driver problem more than anything, but that's just my hunch.Toby.
Torque Owner Eric Hartman
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