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JFK assasination game

by Joshua Dallman · in General Discussion · 11/22/2004 (11:26 pm) · 63 replies

As widely reported in the media, a new game was released on the anniversary of JFK's assasination that allows players to assume the role of Lee Harvey Oswald and shoot JFK's motorcade. The game is billed as a "interactive recreation" of the JFK assasination.

What are some people's thoughts about this?
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#1
11/22/2004 (11:35 pm)
Capitalism in a free country... Controversy sells! At 10 a pop he's probably made bank. Granted JFK is probably one of my favorite presidents other than FDR and Clinton but still, sometimes making bank is dirty, ask your anyday neo con.
#2
11/22/2004 (11:39 pm)
I saw. Can't say I approve.

What can any gamers learn from this simulation?

BTW, Clinton knows better about dirty money than most "neo cons". Got Whitewater?
#3
11/22/2004 (11:40 pm)
"Back and to the left..back, and to the left"

In Sweden we have had our head of state assasined aswell, even if I didn't always agree with his oppinions I held great respect for the man.
A game that would let you play his alleged murderer would make me feel rather uncomfortable.
Hopefully the consumer will know what is right and what is not.
#4
11/22/2004 (11:43 pm)
My thoughts are that demo sucks you cant do anything!

but yeah.. touchy subject, perhaps best left alone
#5
11/22/2004 (11:43 pm)
I would hope, Jorgen, but it'll probably make a killing (no pun intended). Many love playing sniper in FPSes. What better than to play as one of the most high-profile snipers/victims ever?
#6
11/22/2004 (11:43 pm)
Screw this... I want Gandhi Reloaded!!!
#7
11/23/2004 (12:00 am)
@Josh: ahh, ever so subtle ;)

@Eric: I guess you right.

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EDIT: removed a personal opinion which could be considered unfair, prejudicing or plain OT
#8
11/23/2004 (12:21 am)
I believe you're thinking of public TV, which goes by a different set of rules.

There are no ban on any time of game that I know of, violent or XXX. Now, trying to get some of them into stores is another matter altogether.
#9
11/23/2004 (1:10 am)
I have a couple of thoughts on this:

1) So let me get this right... You can't say you want to assasinate the president without the chance of being arrested but you can recreate the pointless murder of one of the greatest presidents of our times because he's dead already?

2) Is it multi player? Because if it is, I would stay away from th grassy knoll.

Personally I have a problem with this. I would not have a problem however if it were like a time travel game or something and you could stop famous events or maybe be the one that did these things for some reason or another to follow the story line.

It's been done on TV and it would be cool to have a game like that where you could change the future by altering the past..

EDIT: Edit my edit. I still don't like it
#10
11/23/2004 (1:17 am)
Where they are offering a contest and better shots gets better points?

It still is making a sport out of it. I don't care how many times they call it a simulation.
#11
11/23/2004 (1:20 am)
Yeah... I didn't really think to much on it. I just did a edit of my edit. It's still shooting a great man. If it was free and was used to prove a point that the shot was not possilbe, then I could justify it. But the fact that there making money and a sport out of who could kill JFK the closest is just wrong.
#12
11/23/2004 (1:27 am)
Hmm.. I got a feeling that its more like a bad joke, made by skeptics of the official investigation. Ten bucks award goes for anyone who can shoot JFK in a way the official investigation indicated. I guess its impossible in the game, since they have offered a cash prize.
#13
11/23/2004 (1:47 am)
I dont see the problem to be honest.

You can get games that allow you to kill aliens, muslims/arabs, endangered animals, invade Iraq, shoot nazis and Hitler etc.etc., so why not a game that allows you to kill JFK?

There are even movies made of this - why not a game?

Personally I wont buy the game, but I think its indie dev at its best. He found a nice, got HUGE PR (it was even on Danish prime time TV news) and will make money to fund his next game.
#14
11/23/2004 (2:42 am)
Any game where the object is to shoot americans would prolly be a good seller right about now... sadly...
#15
11/23/2004 (2:47 am)
Quote:Any game where the object is to shoot americans would prolly be a good seller right about now... sadly...

That's kind of harsh and not exactly based on anything assumption, now isnt it?
#16
11/23/2004 (3:17 am)
I won't say I'm for this... in fact I would never buy something like this, but Thomas is right here. If you don't mind games where you invade countries, kill other countries presidents, or just kill/shoot people in general, then what's the problem with a game where you shoot an already dead president?
#17
11/23/2004 (3:29 am)
In a way, I don't mind having a game like this out there. It tells me a lot about the game maker and anyone who buys the game for the pleasure. Having said that, it gives me the idea that I might enjoy collecting games like this just to have on a shelf labelled "Hearts of darkness" or something dazzlingly literary, just to show people and say "Can you believe this?" Of course, everyone will.

Nick
#18
11/23/2004 (3:42 am)
Wanna bet that the developers are now on the Secret Service Watchlist?

Dumb.
#19
11/23/2004 (6:15 am)
My problem is that while it's billed as an interactive recreation (much like the military's use of interactive combat simulators), it is being touted as a game by just about everyone. The difference between a game and a simulation or re-enactment/recreation is quite a large. Calling it a game brings the connotation of murdering real people for entertainment value, which invalidates the usualy industry argument of "but they're not real people". Sure, there's no one who is jacked in that will flatline if a gunman tags JFK, but the fact that it uses a real person makes using that argument a bit more difficult.

Regardless of the popularity of sniper titles, paying to play a singular event rather than a number of skill-based sniper missions seems idiotic to the gamer side of me. I'd rather download a million counterstrike mods for free than pay to play one extremely short mission over and over again. Maybe that's just me.

Quote:Any game where the object is to shoot americans would prolly be a good seller right about now... sadly...
Actually, a game dealing with shooting our administration would probably be popular as that's where most of the hate is focused around the world. I would be really surprised if Bin Ladin's training exercises include a videogame where you walk into cafes with a bomb strapped to yourself and blow up to see how many points you can get. But that's also because of the mindset.
#20
11/23/2004 (6:24 am)
I really don't want to rant here, and certainly not give the impression that I have anything against anyone.

@Thomas: That kind of argument would justify almost any type of setting you could possibly come up with: rape, genocide, child abuse etc. etc.
There is a difference betwen this and Quake3..

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This is still something that we as a community have to react upon.
If we condone these games as a great way to start Indie business, where does that lead?

For every moment where entertainment capitalize on our most terrible events in history, our mind and fair judging will grow number.
Whats next?
Take a crash tour into the twin towers: enjoy the perfect simulation of 9/11!

Gee, I don't think so.......

EDIT: rearranged for clarity issues
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