Game Development Community

I'm still an IDEA fan - the latest version is so sweet and the integrated feeling everything has is/was still missing in Eclipse. I havent tried the 3.0 series yet, but at some point in time Eclipse _will_ indeed be the best. Until then I'll code in IDEA ;-)

Oh - and I have no clue why everyone is so happy about VC++ - compared to eclipse and IDEA its the worst P.O.S. - it might be good if you shell out tons of money for add-ons, but why cant anyone make a real IDE for C++?

Torque Owner Jarrod Roberson

04/13/2004 (11:46 am)

For Java development IDEA is the best by a long shot!
The 7.x versions of Visual Studio are major improvements over previous versions! And with the Visual Assist it is about as good as it gets for C++ right now.

I tried the latest Codewarrior, and while the IDE is much easier to set up and use, the libraries are not as compliant and did not allow me to compile lots of stuff that Visual Studio and even GCC compiled with little or no complaints. And the autocomplete was not as reliable or robust as VS. Borland had the same problems with the std libary stuff not playing nicely with some of the ANSI stuff I am using because of header issues just like CodeWarrior :-(

Associate Ben Garney

04/13/2004 (9:34 pm)

VC7.1 works pretty well. It could be better, but it's pretty darn livable. :)

Now, if Eclipse did C++ like it did Java, I'd be all over it, instantly.

Torque 3D Owner Jay Barnson

04/14/2004 (7:50 am)

I'm with Ben on that one. I like the VC debugging tools. Eclipse is just ridiculously cool for doing Java editing - I've seen expensive commercial products that have a tough time keeping up.

Torque Owner Ben Carnes

04/14/2004 (9:15 am)

Last time I checked, NetBeans was the best Java IDE (especially for GUIs). Netbeans has alot of extremely useful features not in Eclipse, or even many commercial Java IDEs. For example, compile errors are flagged emediately (With NetBeans I typically never have compile errors at compile-time!).

Torque Owner Jarrod Roberson

04/14/2004 (9:55 am)

Then it has been a LONG time since you checked! :-)

Eclipse does everything that Netbeans does and more now and faster and with a smaller memory footprint, NetBeans has always been a PIG!

But I still prefer IntelliJ IDEA, which is really driving the Java IDE market right now, lots of stuff in NetBeans, Eclipse and other Java IDE's are only there because IDEA had them first, and in most cases still has the best implementation!

Associate Stefan Beffy Moises

04/14/2004 (11:22 am)

Yeah, but IDEA costs money ;)
So Eclipse it the winner and 3.0 will be a blast (although I find myself using Netbeans more and more, too) ;)

Torque 3D Owner Chris "DiGi" Timberlake

04/14/2004 (1:57 pm)

I personally think that with some of the new stuff that 3.0 Beta's is putting in when its finalized there might be alot of C++ plugins. I personally use it for scripting myself it has almost anything i need for it. I only use VC for compiling anymore. But anymore in my mind, for utilities Java is seeming better and better. I mean a cross-platform game, with crossplatform tools (Updater and such) this is kind of appealing to me, and it seems like it would be to the user aswell. But i guess its the developer taste. Personally i'd like to have one installer for all os's, makes it easy for the person, like say, a .exe .bin and mac executable, that has a small size that loads a .jar files. Its easy, simple and you can easily deploy it on a cd, and have it cross-platform the game, the utilities and installer at what? A small 5 - 10 megs more, that idea is appealing to me, as it is easy for users. -- Doncha love my rambleing lol --

Torque Owner George McBay

#10

04/14/2004 (2:31 pm)

For C++ work, you can have my Visual Studio .NET 2003 DVD when you pry it from my cold dead hands.

Eclipse is great for Java though, and free.

Torque 3D Owner Chris "DiGi" Timberlake

#11

04/14/2004 (2:45 pm)

Now all we need is someone to make plugins to have Eclipse do C++ too. *Looks at GG Crew* Its all i wnat for X-mas / Birthday ;)

Edit: Mmmmmmm Java sounds nice Mmmmmmmm TASTEH!

Torque Owner Jarrod Roberson

#12

04/15/2004 (7:37 am)

Eclipse does do C++, just no where near as well as it supports Java. I tried the C++ stuff for Eclipse and found it severly lacking even when compared to something like Visual SlickEdit!

I got your back George if anyone tried to take your VS2k3 away from you! :-)

Torque Owner Edward Smith
Silencersoft

#13

04/17/2004 (11:44 pm)

Eclipse is great I use it for all of my Java programming, the 3.0M8 looks nicer then the 3.0M6 I had.

I didn't work out how you get it to use C++ in it?

I found IDEA 4.0 to be abit ulgy coming from Eclipse.

Someone posted a project for TGE in Eclipse here?

Torque Owner Lloyd Willis

#14

04/18/2004 (5:59 pm)

I just installed and set up the MinGW + MSys + Eclipse 2.1.2 compiler/IDE for C++ and it works fine for me. Of course, I'm new to C++ and so there are probably feature that it should have that I don't know enought to want yet. But, so far, it works okay. I downloaded the CDT plug-in 1.2 for C++ and it works fine at least for comiling. Wait a couple of days, and I'll be back grumbling about what it doesn't do.

Lloyd

Torque 3D Owner Chris "DiGi" Timberlake

#15

04/25/2004 (12:39 am)

Ed, i made my own project files, all you really need is to isntall these them in this order (MiniGW, MSYS, Eclipse 3.0M8, then teh CDT For M8) load up the C++ Environment and clikc new project choose the folder and your good to do, and btw you have to start it VIA Msys with cd (your eclipse folder) then ./eclipse, on linux just install eclipse and cdt then run it, your good to go

Post a blog
Add a resource
Start a Thread