Pornographic games utilizing 3D technology
by Jackson · in Game Design and Creative Issues · 09/07/2001 (1:48 am) · 55 replies
My questiong to the devhedz out there is:
Do you all think there is a market for a 3d person adult video game for the PC?
Most of the products out there are interactive video clips. So if a product was created using a 3d engine, would you (as the game playing grognards tha you are) play, pirate, or purchase it?
If so what would be the most important features needed in such a game?
And for those of you who don't mind a poll,
In order of importance what would this product's
priority need to be?
graphics
sound
gameplay
price
fast load times
(other?)
also, would you be more likely to purchase such a product online (download), in an adult store, or online (CD)?
Thank you.
Do you all think there is a market for a 3d person adult video game for the PC?
Most of the products out there are interactive video clips. So if a product was created using a 3d engine, would you (as the game playing grognards tha you are) play, pirate, or purchase it?
If so what would be the most important features needed in such a game?
And for those of you who don't mind a poll,
In order of importance what would this product's
priority need to be?
graphics
sound
gameplay
price
fast load times
(other?)
also, would you be more likely to purchase such a product online (download), in an adult store, or online (CD)?
Thank you.
About the author
#2
A one-handed interface.
09/07/2001 (8:02 am)
Quote:what would be the most important features needed in such a game?
A one-handed interface.
#3
09/07/2001 (8:12 am)
I'll volunteer to model for the motion captures......
#4
09/08/2001 (2:24 pm)
LOL David
#5
For starters, you could look at Illusion (www.illusion.co.jp), which is currently the industry leader of 3D H games in Japan.
Or for a web magazine with reviews & previews of all H games either currently on the market or under development, you can take a look at http://www.getchu.com
Hope this helps!
11/02/2002 (5:57 am)
Actually, you could take a look at the Japanese adult game (called "H" or "Hentai" games) market. They have a large, old (since the DOS days) and well-supported market with some truly talented developers now.For starters, you could look at Illusion (www.illusion.co.jp), which is currently the industry leader of 3D H games in Japan.
Or for a web magazine with reviews & previews of all H games either currently on the market or under development, you can take a look at http://www.getchu.com
Hope this helps!
#6
11/02/2002 (7:37 pm)
haha one-handed interface. Sad but true.
#7
11/02/2002 (8:18 pm)
finally, a game concept that can trully bring out the full potential of force feedback ;)
#8
Come out of your house, and, I know this is a hard concept for you to understand, but... MEET PEOPLE!
11/02/2002 (9:09 pm)
That is truly childish, and disgusting.Come out of your house, and, I know this is a hard concept for you to understand, but... MEET PEOPLE!
#9
11/02/2002 (9:25 pm)
I agree with Chris, I think it is just so pathedic how people play games just because it's all nudity. Get a life and a girl friend or something.
#10
Would you care to explain how exactly this is childish and disguisting? I'm dying to hear this. And perhaps you'd care to tell us all about your girlfriend that was so great that you never felt the need to look at porn.
Are you merely objecting to this because of your puritan upbringing, or do you actually have reasons for your comments?
11/02/2002 (9:34 pm)
Interesting posts Chris and Nathan.Would you care to explain how exactly this is childish and disguisting? I'm dying to hear this. And perhaps you'd care to tell us all about your girlfriend that was so great that you never felt the need to look at porn.
Are you merely objecting to this because of your puritan upbringing, or do you actually have reasons for your comments?
#11
And just thinking of it, it wouldn't be that hard, just have to make really good models etc. Everything else would be pretty easy I think.
11/02/2002 (9:45 pm)
There is alot of money in pornos etc. And if this would be alot more interactive, and should get alot of people.And just thinking of it, it wouldn't be that hard, just have to make really good models etc. Everything else would be pretty easy I think.
#12
BTW, I do have to admit that this isnt as bad as real porn, at least this wont involve two strangers being payed to have sex with each other... that eases the old moral concience a little ;)
11/02/2002 (10:14 pm)
I have some very mixed feelings about this topic... on one side I feel that it is pretty disgusting and I generaly look down on perverts (I wouldnt call it childish, there are plenty of dirty old men)... but on the other hand it would be a good investment, I'm sure a game like this would sell pretty damn good, so if your just looking for money then this seems like a really good idea (that is assuming your willing to turn your name to mudd). It's kinda one of those old sell your soul to the devil dilema's, you could probably make a bit of money with this, but you might not be able to look at yourself in the mirror. I say, if you are a horrible person and really dont have a moral concious and doing something like this really wouldnt bother you (if so dont feel bad, most people are like this anyway), then go for it, seems like a good idea... but I wouldnt go around telling all your freinds and family what your doing... I know I probably wouldnt associate with someone doing something like thisBTW, I do have to admit that this isnt as bad as real porn, at least this wont involve two strangers being payed to have sex with each other... that eases the old moral concience a little ;)
#13
This isn't to say it can't be expressive or better with love... but really... it's a small part of life/a relationship.
Get over it...
The fun:
Check out the "Glamour Models" here: www.geo-metricks.com in the human avatars section.
What's wrong with Sexy?
The political:
In my country, America, it is more acceptable to show a person's head get blown off than nudity... forget intercourse... we have a deep seated problem with our own naked bodies...
In Finland(for instance), men, women, and children sauna.. together.. in the nude.. and no they don't have sex while doing it...
-J
11/02/2002 (10:36 pm)
Sex isn't a sacred ritual... the first time you laugh while doing it... you'll realize this :)This isn't to say it can't be expressive or better with love... but really... it's a small part of life/a relationship.
Get over it...
The fun:
Check out the "Glamour Models" here: www.geo-metricks.com in the human avatars section.
What's wrong with Sexy?
The political:
In my country, America, it is more acceptable to show a person's head get blown off than nudity... forget intercourse... we have a deep seated problem with our own naked bodies...
In Finland(for instance), men, women, and children sauna.. together.. in the nude.. and no they don't have sex while doing it...
-J
#14
By the way Chris, if you are out meeting people, chances are you aren't making games.
Get professional, people. Who cares about the content of a game? He posted to (hopefully) get answers to his question, not to be judged by "flawless", "perfect" people such as yourselves. cattle.
11/03/2002 (6:01 am)
Keep your comments about "porn games being childish" etc. to yourself. Which part of "I would like your input on game design elements" did you think was asking for your opinion on pornography? WE DON'T CARE what you think about it unless you are being constructive and following the topic of this thread. If I came into a thread of yours and told you that your game sucked because I didn't like it, I would look like a moron huh? We all know who *really* needs to grow up and get a life. Mind your own damn business. If you want to start a discussion of *why* porn is bad and evil, then make your own damn thread. By the way Chris, if you are out meeting people, chances are you aren't making games.
Get professional, people. Who cares about the content of a game? He posted to (hopefully) get answers to his question, not to be judged by "flawless", "perfect" people such as yourselves. cattle.
#15
I'd look for it now, but I'm at the IGC, and I'm sure everyone will be wondering when I descend into the (inevitable) porn hits while looking.
Vic-D
11/03/2002 (9:39 am)
I remember hearing about some sort of sex paripharal that hooks up to your computer. I imagine that a porn game that took advantage of that would probably be very tempting to anyone with that product. Who knows, you might even be able to get some sort of packaging deal. Of course, if you were to support that, make sure the game will still run without it.I'd look for it now, but I'm at the IGC, and I'm sure everyone will be wondering when I descend into the (inevitable) porn hits while looking.
Vic-D
#17
11/03/2002 (10:08 am)
With these things inserted into your retail box, you will erect a very solid business and fill your pockets with gobs of money, especially when your sales reach a climax. Its hard work but very satisying in the end. I think with this sort of product, most of the publicity will come orally, friends playing with other friend's boxes and purchasing a copy for themselves.
#18
haha, thats great, where'd you find that Ibrator thing? thats one of the funniest joke websites I've seen in a while
anyway, josh, I also come from a little place called america as well, and I gotta say that your argument is pretty flawed, first off theres the fact that their is plenty of sex in movies and tv already, the only difference is that normal american media (to avoid getting stern ratings) has an extra 10 square inches of fabric around a few key areas... cant you just use your imagination? and as for there being tons of violence and no sex.... thats simply not true, there is just about as much of one as the other, just neither are very graphic... for instance when was the last time you realisticly saw someone murdered on tv? its usualy someone getting shot, then a little red dye on their shirt and wala their dead, thats the violecne equivalent to friends where they start kissing and taking off their shirts as they run into the bedroom... now do you see why we dont like porn? its because porn is real, wherease the violecne we are used to is not, you really cant compare the two, how do you think people would react to a movie which had someone really getting shot in the head, showing their skull tear in half and peices of their brain lying next to them while they soak in their own blood, a real human being getting murdered in front of them... that would bother people, and so would two human beings in real life actualy having sex with each other. Also your argument that Europeans are open with sex seems pretty childish "well the Europeans are perverts, therefore we should get to be too", thats like saying "well the people in afganistan get to abuse women and kill people, we should get to as well!" ya man, you shouldnt stive to follow the least moral societies, you should strive to follow those with the highest morals. Instead of using violence in American media as an excuse to have pornography as well, you should decide that we just shouldnt have violence in American media... but I dont think you really care about that, I think your just a pervert and your only real interest is seing people do it... so I say, dont waist our time and try and insult us with your stupid excuses as to whyits ok for you to get to see people have sex, just admit that you are a pervert, to us and yourself, and dont try and sugarcoat it with other non related topics such as violence and Europe. If you want to defend peoples rights to see other people have sex with each other then go for it, this is America and it is perfectly ok legaly, but dont try and justify it moraly, you just seme like a real ass.
I've actualy thought about this topic a bit more and decided that maybe its not so bad, since it will not actualy be real, I dont think I'd buy this game, but I guess I dont really see anything wrong with it. There is a strong line between reality and make believe, as long as the production of this game doesnt result in real people having sex for video capture or whatever then I dont really think theres much wrong with it. Oh well, no one really cares what I think about it anyway, just do whatever you want, this is America, thats what people are going to do anyway.
11/03/2002 (10:43 am)
Your boss storms into your office and screams, "I need an orgasm within the next five minutes!"haha, thats great, where'd you find that Ibrator thing? thats one of the funniest joke websites I've seen in a while
anyway, josh, I also come from a little place called america as well, and I gotta say that your argument is pretty flawed, first off theres the fact that their is plenty of sex in movies and tv already, the only difference is that normal american media (to avoid getting stern ratings) has an extra 10 square inches of fabric around a few key areas... cant you just use your imagination? and as for there being tons of violence and no sex.... thats simply not true, there is just about as much of one as the other, just neither are very graphic... for instance when was the last time you realisticly saw someone murdered on tv? its usualy someone getting shot, then a little red dye on their shirt and wala their dead, thats the violecne equivalent to friends where they start kissing and taking off their shirts as they run into the bedroom... now do you see why we dont like porn? its because porn is real, wherease the violecne we are used to is not, you really cant compare the two, how do you think people would react to a movie which had someone really getting shot in the head, showing their skull tear in half and peices of their brain lying next to them while they soak in their own blood, a real human being getting murdered in front of them... that would bother people, and so would two human beings in real life actualy having sex with each other. Also your argument that Europeans are open with sex seems pretty childish "well the Europeans are perverts, therefore we should get to be too", thats like saying "well the people in afganistan get to abuse women and kill people, we should get to as well!" ya man, you shouldnt stive to follow the least moral societies, you should strive to follow those with the highest morals. Instead of using violence in American media as an excuse to have pornography as well, you should decide that we just shouldnt have violence in American media... but I dont think you really care about that, I think your just a pervert and your only real interest is seing people do it... so I say, dont waist our time and try and insult us with your stupid excuses as to whyits ok for you to get to see people have sex, just admit that you are a pervert, to us and yourself, and dont try and sugarcoat it with other non related topics such as violence and Europe. If you want to defend peoples rights to see other people have sex with each other then go for it, this is America and it is perfectly ok legaly, but dont try and justify it moraly, you just seme like a real ass.
I've actualy thought about this topic a bit more and decided that maybe its not so bad, since it will not actualy be real, I dont think I'd buy this game, but I guess I dont really see anything wrong with it. There is a strong line between reality and make believe, as long as the production of this game doesnt result in real people having sex for video capture or whatever then I dont really think theres much wrong with it. Oh well, no one really cares what I think about it anyway, just do whatever you want, this is America, thats what people are going to do anyway.
#19
Your entire argument is based on the flawed concept that 'sex is bad'. You should think about that position for a while, and see if it makes any sense to you.
As for the Europeans, the point you missed is that they don't have the same hangups about their bodies that our Puritan forefathers left us with. Taking a sauna together is natural and not sexual, perhaps you should ask yourself why you read 'sex' into taking a sauna.
For your benefit, I will simplify this for you. Violence is bad because it harms other people. That seems clear enough, you don't have the right to hurt another person. People having sex doesn't hurt anybody. It's natural and healthy. Mutual consent and enjoyment. It's about as bad and wrong as playing Basketball with your friends.
Don't let others make your moral decisions for you, think for yourself. I repeat, think for yourself. Have reasons for the positions you take, reasons that make logical sense.
11/03/2002 (11:09 am)
Eric Risser,Your entire argument is based on the flawed concept that 'sex is bad'. You should think about that position for a while, and see if it makes any sense to you.
As for the Europeans, the point you missed is that they don't have the same hangups about their bodies that our Puritan forefathers left us with. Taking a sauna together is natural and not sexual, perhaps you should ask yourself why you read 'sex' into taking a sauna.
For your benefit, I will simplify this for you. Violence is bad because it harms other people. That seems clear enough, you don't have the right to hurt another person. People having sex doesn't hurt anybody. It's natural and healthy. Mutual consent and enjoyment. It's about as bad and wrong as playing Basketball with your friends.
Don't let others make your moral decisions for you, think for yourself. I repeat, think for yourself. Have reasons for the positions you take, reasons that make logical sense.
#20
I'm actually hoping you go through with this not because of hopes to see some porno but because I would be very curious to see this actually implemented into a fun game design. I've seen some alleged porn games before but they're all pretty lame and just use the nudity/sex as a novelty selling point, I wanna see someone make something fun outta this just cause I think it would kick ass if someone pulled it off in a fully interactive 3d world.
11/03/2002 (1:51 pm)
Porn + Torque = AwesomeI'm actually hoping you go through with this not because of hopes to see some porno but because I would be very curious to see this actually implemented into a fun game design. I've seen some alleged porn games before but they're all pretty lame and just use the nudity/sex as a novelty selling point, I wanna see someone make something fun outta this just cause I think it would kick ass if someone pulled it off in a fully interactive 3d world.
Clayton Weaver
Yes.
Gameplay
Graphics
Fast load times
Sound
Price
Online(CD) with the use of a money order
I'd purchase it with a money order because I don't trust internet connections enough to post credit card numbers and personal info on the net unless absolutely necessary. Hope that helps a little:).
--Clayton Weaver