Ragdoll???

I have searched this community for Ragdoll to no evail. With all the people who would like Ragdoll in their game, wouldn't it be great if someone would share the knowledge of how its done. Since TGE won't be sold anymore, maybe someone will find it in their hearts to share the much gaurded knowledge. That brings me to this question, why is it so guarded? Look at the water upgrade, its free and I would have paid 20 dollars for my water to look like that, but if everyone sold their ideas for a few bucks to share a few lines of code, then this communtiy of helping one another would stink bad. Thats what I like about GG's forums, its all about sharing and helping each other to get the most out of the engine. Now by all means, I am not suggesting that someone who knows how to do ragdoll for the community, should not make a few dollars from it, but it doesn't seem to be anyone that I have heard of, thats doing ragdoll. I know once their was a Ragdoll Pack, but its gone. I did install Ode and it works somewhat, but my engine crash's when I try the ragdoll part of it..........Please if their is anyone who knows how to do Ragdoll effects in TGE 1.5.2, could you please let me know....Like I said I would even buy the Ragdoll kit if you have it. I did look at the Game Mechanics Kit but I only need Ragdoll, hey maybe they can just port a Ragdoll kit off their GMK.........Donnie