How to get a screenshot pulled by morning

#1 Liberal bastards!!!


(j/k) :)

#2 It was probably pulled because of the resident armchair politicians turned it into a political war.

If GG was trying to censor your game they never would have approved the screenshot.

Occasionally they will take down a shot because some people from the community decide to start a flame war over something.

#3 Oh forget it.

#4 Well, I thought the screenshot looked excellent.

I am not involved in this community to express my political, religious, or any other personal beliefs. There are different arenas for that. It is a shame you did not get any constructive comments on the screenshot. If it's not your kind of game, then don't comment.

Kurt

#5 I guess I might as well sit on the screen shots my my Jihad MOD :(

#6 Folks, welcome to the real world.

In the real world companies need to be careful of their image.

The game was in questionable taste, frankly I'm suprised the screenshot got posted in the first place. But it's not suprising that GG pulled it if it turned into a political flamefest, or they received complaints.

If you want to fight the man and demonstrate how big your balls are I suggest you do it in a way that doesn't jeopardize the pocketbook of others.

Bottom line: It's their site, they decide what stays and what goes. You have ZERO right to freedom of speech or freedom of expression while on GarageGames.com

#7 JDS: That's good to know. I was thinking we all weren't in preschool still. Good thing developers of Grand Theft Auto 3 didn't use Torque engine.

#8 Even if they did use Torque for GTa3, Im sure they would have been able to hide it..if they didn't want people to know, but Im sure they would have since it was so popular. JDS is right, Image is everything in the world.

Although if they went ahead and posted it up, they probably should have just left it, Flames are part of the internet after all.

#9 Mark,

I didn't say don't publish the game. I 100% support your right to make whatever game you want. I also support GarageGames right to not shine a spotlight on things that they find questionable.

I can understand your being upset over your screenshots being pulled but once again, it's their site, their company on the line and food off of their tables NOT yours.

As for not being in preschool... Might want to stop with the temper tantrums then.

#10 JDS: Ok. I will. I will stop having temper tantrums. :)

#11

Quote:JDS: That's good to know. I was thinking we all weren't in preschool still. Good thing developers of Grand Theft Auto 3 didn't use Torque engine.

The content of your game wasn't the issue, or they wouldn't have posted it in the first place. It was the reaction of a few members of the community that got it pulled.

Don't hate GG because a few people forced them to pull your dev shot.

#12 I don't hate anybody. I just wish they would have left it there for a day. Not saying I don't understand because I do. Can't a man want something he can't have though? :)

#13 There's always .plans and GG forums you can use to keep the public updated! The shot looked great! I hope you keep on updating us!

#14 To be honest, political issues aside, your shot was up for about the same length of time many others are due to a peculiarity in the GG snapshot code I think.

Of course, theirs are still in the snapshot gallery ;)

#15 I hated the concept of the game, but that is not why I pulled the shot. I pulled the shot because of the flame wars that started immediately dividing the community. I don't care what kind of game gets made with Torque, but keeping this community from tearing itself apart is in my best interest.

There are many sites to test the validity of your political ideas, but this site is dedicated to bringing independent games to market. I actually posted the screen shot knowing it would be a hot topic, but the heat went too high too fast. Evidently our community is unable to handle this kind of discussion.

Grand Theft Auto is a good game, but I am on record as saying that our industry needs to police itself, or Washington DC will police it for us. Twelve year old kids getting their parents to buy a game like GTA should not be allowed. Older people do not undertstand that the rating system means what it says.

Jeff Tunnell GG

#16 @Jeff - First, posting/pulling the screenshot is your guys call, I don't think anyone will not back GG on that point, but what bothers me about your statement is this "police" itself non-sense.

@Jeff - what you are talking about is NOT "our industry policing ITSELF", it is "our industry policing OTHER PEOPLES KIDS".

PARENTS should be held accountably for what their kids get into, NOT RockStar, NOT MTV, NOT Sony. GTA for example already has markings and stickers WARNING PARENTS about its MATURE content. The "industry" is already going plenty far in its "self police" mode.

I remember E3 after the Columbine shootings, almost every game that had any thing the media could latch onto was either pulled from the show completely or moved to an "invitation only" booth. Hell they "hide" that Panty Raider game off in a corner that year because it was "contriverstal", more like it was in my opinon; silly and sophmoric, but it did fit into the "original" category you talk about all the time.

Your statement implies that "the industry" such as Developers, Publishers and Retailers, should POLICE other peoples kids. Please tell me you don't believe this. You said above . . .

Quote:Twelve year old kids getting their parents to buy a game like GTA should not be allowed.

If a twelve year old "gets" their parents to buy them something how is that the "INDUSTRIES" fault? And how can ANYONE at RockStar stop some 12 yr old from doing anything? The only way would be NOT to make the game in the first place or what? If a parent does not take any interest in their child the PARENT should be held accountable, NOT YOU AND ME!

I am genuinely interested in understanding what your opinion on "self policing" is?

For the record, I find some games completely disgusting, the ones sponsered by hate groups in particular, but it is a free country. I will not mention any titles or companies as I don't want to promote their crap myself.

But I find the fact that people think that SOMEONE has to police what an entertainment industry does is just dangerous, it just validates the ridiculous notion that I need to be saved from myself, and that SOMEONE else knows better what I need/want/can do better than me, and that is NOT what this country was founded on.

Lets give people some credit to make their own decisions no matter how stupid or bad they are!

#17

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Grand Theft Auto is a good game, but I am on record as saying that our industry needs to police itself, or Washington DC will police it for us.

It's already started: seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/legislature/video.html

#18 I think that retailers do need to take more responsibility in regard to customer age and content warnings.

The motion picture industry manages to dodge all these violence and sexuality issues without government regulation, primarily because theater owners refuse to sell tickets to R rated movies to minors. They do this voluntarily, and I think game retailers should to be held to the same standard.

#19 Well heck, I see nothing wrong with a 12 year old playing GTA3....I think I was 12 when I played it. I'm not a bad, violent kid - I'm a 4.0, social, normal kid. Its up for the parents to decide whether to buy the game or not. It just depends upon the kid, their maturity level, age, even how well they're doing in school should be a factor.
My mom understands the ESRB ratings. She asks store people about it, reads the ratings, etc. So, she knows.
Cheers.
- Derek

#20

Quote:Lets give people some credit to make their own decisions no matter how stupid or bad they are!

Stupid and bad decisions rarely only affect the one making the decision