Helix
by Kirchgessner · 02/13/2006 (11:27 pm) · 12 comments
Now Here it is our once secret project unveiled......
Helix, will be a massive project for us and the funny part is we are not going to make a single dime off the game what so ever.
Helix, will include a variety of characters including ( of course all are going to be renamed)
-- "Trojans"
-Gunner Trojan , Heavy Trojan, Light Trojan
-Female Trojan
--StrongArms 2 (types)
--Gaurdians 2 (types)
--Welts 2 " "
--Snipers
--Troops 3 " "
--SPEC OPS troops 3 ""
--And many, many more
Vehicles and Weapons
--Names are awaitng Editing
Ok now the spill....
We always thought of how cool it would be to see the masterchief backflip off of a building while chasing someone.
Or have better fighting styles like jujitsu (I know i spelled it wrong, please correct me) shile he has no other weapon.
Or have a rocket launcher with a pistol in the other hand.
Well, all those features will be added along with Dual Weilded swords ( yes i mean swords << plural) , a nice way to commit suicide if your just not killing enough people (or for the heck of it), Backflipping, Running scared, Cart Wheels (Just kidding)
Well you name it it will be in there, hopefully.
Well if you want to help on this exciting game feel free to apply for the job, remember we can't pay you, but what ever you do to help on the game you are garanteed credit.
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Halo & Halo 2 are copyrighted under Microsoft and Bungie, we are not offiliated with them or expect to make profit off their games.
Helix, will be a massive project for us and the funny part is we are not going to make a single dime off the game what so ever.
Helix, will include a variety of characters including ( of course all are going to be renamed)
-- "Trojans"
-Gunner Trojan , Heavy Trojan, Light Trojan
-Female Trojan
--StrongArms 2 (types)
--Gaurdians 2 (types)
--Welts 2 " "
--Snipers
--Troops 3 " "
--SPEC OPS troops 3 ""
--And many, many more
Vehicles and Weapons
--Names are awaitng Editing
Ok now the spill....
We always thought of how cool it would be to see the masterchief backflip off of a building while chasing someone.
Or have better fighting styles like jujitsu (I know i spelled it wrong, please correct me) shile he has no other weapon.
Or have a rocket launcher with a pistol in the other hand.
Well, all those features will be added along with Dual Weilded swords ( yes i mean swords << plural) , a nice way to commit suicide if your just not killing enough people (or for the heck of it), Backflipping, Running scared, Cart Wheels (Just kidding)
Well you name it it will be in there, hopefully.
Well if you want to help on this exciting game feel free to apply for the job, remember we can't pay you, but what ever you do to help on the game you are garanteed credit.
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Halo & Halo 2 are copyrighted under Microsoft and Bungie, we are not offiliated with them or expect to make profit off their games.
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#2
02/14/2006 (5:50 am)
I'll never understand why people will try to do something with someone else's IP when they know they're just going to get a C&D in the end. It's just setting yourself up for wasted work. Now I know there are a couple of Halo fan games out there and Bungie has said they're ok with them, but they're 2D games. You're talking about completely recreating the games with more content. Oh, and its jujitsu.
#3
Thaanks for the drag down in moral. The reason we haven't changed any names is because we don't know what to call them. Plus every model, texture, and building is being modeled by hand. And besides this is the only game that we are using as a game. This is so people can play a halo like game without having to wait for halo on Windows Vista.
@Scott
First of all what the hell does IP stand for, second were talking to a guy that is rebuilding the game for the PC. They are taking everything off of an xbox. This includes the engine, models, textures, and levels. Bungie hasn't said anything to them about it. This game was just supposed to have some really unreal content that wasn't in the actual Game
-- This game is suposed to be one of those, "Hey that would be cool" kind of games. Man I might as well delete this thread if all the comments i'm going to receive are like this. Besides, we already emailed Bungie we are waiting to receive word. And if they say no, we are going to do it anyway, But not for anyone but ourselves. For the simple fact is that we can learn so much from it, and it will be a test of My dual weilding scripts, and what torque is really capable of.
02/14/2006 (6:36 am)
@Philip Thaanks for the drag down in moral. The reason we haven't changed any names is because we don't know what to call them. Plus every model, texture, and building is being modeled by hand. And besides this is the only game that we are using as a game. This is so people can play a halo like game without having to wait for halo on Windows Vista.
@Scott
First of all what the hell does IP stand for, second were talking to a guy that is rebuilding the game for the PC. They are taking everything off of an xbox. This includes the engine, models, textures, and levels. Bungie hasn't said anything to them about it. This game was just supposed to have some really unreal content that wasn't in the actual Game
-- This game is suposed to be one of those, "Hey that would be cool" kind of games. Man I might as well delete this thread if all the comments i'm going to receive are like this. Besides, we already emailed Bungie we are waiting to receive word. And if they say no, we are going to do it anyway, But not for anyone but ourselves. For the simple fact is that we can learn so much from it, and it will be a test of My dual weilding scripts, and what torque is really capable of.
#4
And that's a shame. You won't be able to actually show anyone the work that you've done. Bungie can't stop you from creating derivative work in your own home. But once you present it in a public or corporate space, they can.
The reason that people have brought up these comments is that we've see this time and again where people have been forced to ditch their work after receiving a letter from the lawyers.
For information on IP, you can take a gander here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property
- LightWave Dave
02/14/2006 (7:22 am)
Quote:Besides, we already emailed Bungie we are waiting to receive word. And if they say no, we are going to do it anyway, But not for anyone but ourselves.
And that's a shame. You won't be able to actually show anyone the work that you've done. Bungie can't stop you from creating derivative work in your own home. But once you present it in a public or corporate space, they can.
The reason that people have brought up these comments is that we've see this time and again where people have been forced to ditch their work after receiving a letter from the lawyers.
For information on IP, you can take a gander here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property
- LightWave Dave
#5
Now if your thread would have been posted first, i would have probably felt better. Actually we will be able to show it off just not as The Halo look to it. We are planning on getting the Scripts we learn off of Helix, and incorporating them into Dogfight and Lugi shooters, 2 other games we have put on hold because of lack of knowledge of the GUI stuff, and AI.
Probably the biggest reason for doing this if we are allowed to is to learn the engine more, and to show off what my brother and i can do.
Now about IP, if they would have said Intelectual Property I would have understood. But I don't know some of the lingo on GG. To me IP stands for Internet Protocol, but thats because of i worked as an Student Computer Tech for a local school system for 3 years.
02/14/2006 (7:37 am)
Thank you Dave.Now if your thread would have been posted first, i would have probably felt better. Actually we will be able to show it off just not as The Halo look to it. We are planning on getting the Scripts we learn off of Helix, and incorporating them into Dogfight and Lugi shooters, 2 other games we have put on hold because of lack of knowledge of the GUI stuff, and AI.
Probably the biggest reason for doing this if we are allowed to is to learn the engine more, and to show off what my brother and i can do.
Now about IP, if they would have said Intelectual Property I would have understood. But I don't know some of the lingo on GG. To me IP stands for Internet Protocol, but thats because of i worked as an Student Computer Tech for a local school system for 3 years.
#6
If you tried to copy a game I made and show it but with different art I'd be really really pissed. If you want respect as a developer maybe you should show respect to other devs as well.
02/14/2006 (7:48 am)
Is this for real? If you tried to copy a game I made and show it but with different art I'd be really really pissed. If you want respect as a developer maybe you should show respect to other devs as well.
#7
Maybe you should listen to these guys. Their is nothing wrong with developing your own game, that is inspired by Halo. However you have to do most of the story/charecture work yourself. This is for your own good. I realise that you said that it will be internal only. Again this seems to be a complete waste of time. If you want to show what you and your brother are really capible of, would it not be better to be able to show it off to people?
02/14/2006 (8:10 am)
Brain,Maybe you should listen to these guys. Their is nothing wrong with developing your own game, that is inspired by Halo. However you have to do most of the story/charecture work yourself. This is for your own good. I realise that you said that it will be internal only. Again this seems to be a complete waste of time. If you want to show what you and your brother are really capible of, would it not be better to be able to show it off to people?
#8
If Bungie or microsoft say no to allowing us to release it as a free game then we will remove all information and anything pertaining to it, then we will only use the game is internally.
@ Fundemic
We are already in production of our own game, Dogfight: Wars of the Outer Rim and eventually LugiShooters.
And besides it could be considered satire because we dont use anything from the games themselves, and its a free game, If Microsoft or Bungie dont like the idea, Have them emailing me or Brian saying they dont like the idea, then We will remove every trace of it. And the only thing left will be the fans that liked the idea.
Search the web, there are others trying to do this, but they are hacking and using the Halo 2 models, source code, levels, textures. and only changing up what they cannot get. While we are not... We have made everything on our own based off of pictures and concept drawings.
02/14/2006 (8:28 am)
You guys really missread, we are only using the idea, all the credit for the original idea will be given to bungie and microsoft we have already sent requests to them to see if they wouldnt mind a homade remake of the multiplayer so everyone could play and build up anticipation for the next release. Plus this would give show off torque bringing in all those new gamers that dont yet know that you have to actually have an engine to run and make a game.If Bungie or microsoft say no to allowing us to release it as a free game then we will remove all information and anything pertaining to it, then we will only use the game is internally.
@ Fundemic
We are already in production of our own game, Dogfight: Wars of the Outer Rim and eventually LugiShooters.
And besides it could be considered satire because we dont use anything from the games themselves, and its a free game, If Microsoft or Bungie dont like the idea, Have them emailing me or Brian saying they dont like the idea, then We will remove every trace of it. And the only thing left will be the fans that liked the idea.
Search the web, there are others trying to do this, but they are hacking and using the Halo 2 models, source code, levels, textures. and only changing up what they cannot get. While we are not... We have made everything on our own based off of pictures and concept drawings.
#9
I didn't mean for my comments to get you all riled up. I meant them simply as a warning because as Dave said we've seen this so many times before. Microsoft/Bungie probably haven't said anything to the guy taking everything off the xbox because they probably don't know about it yet. I guarantee that when they do he'll get shutdown.
Also, I know what its like to have this great idea that involves someone else's IP. I have one that I've been sitting on for a couple years now. It was originally meant to be a student project, which would've been ok for us to do it, but we knew we didn't have the time to do it justice. So I'm sitting on it, until one day I hope I may be able to procure the rights to do the game, but I won't touch it until then.
02/14/2006 (8:36 am)
Brian,I didn't mean for my comments to get you all riled up. I meant them simply as a warning because as Dave said we've seen this so many times before. Microsoft/Bungie probably haven't said anything to the guy taking everything off the xbox because they probably don't know about it yet. I guarantee that when they do he'll get shutdown.
Also, I know what its like to have this great idea that involves someone else's IP. I have one that I've been sitting on for a couple years now. It was originally meant to be a student project, which would've been ok for us to do it, but we knew we didn't have the time to do it justice. So I'm sitting on it, until one day I hope I may be able to procure the rights to do the game, but I won't touch it until then.
#10
And I've searched through out the forums and have found how many projects have gone unfinished.
But you guys are reading this the wrong way, My brother and I are doing this to test out our skills to see if we are capable of being able to do this. If we can't do it for the community and we get shut down. We are still going to do it, even if we can't show it off. We're not doing it for the recognition, or to get it published.
thats simply it, its a test of our own. If we get shutdown oh well, but what we do in the process of making this game is essential in our other two games, the dual weilding without editing source code, the amount of players/vehicles, etc.
Its to enhance our skills and to enhance our knowledge of torque.
We thought while we were doing it might as well have it to were others can enjoy it as well. Thats why we contacted Bungie, and thats why if they don't approve all word of this game will cease to exist
02/14/2006 (8:53 am)
Yes I realize that you guys are warning us.And I've searched through out the forums and have found how many projects have gone unfinished.
But you guys are reading this the wrong way, My brother and I are doing this to test out our skills to see if we are capable of being able to do this. If we can't do it for the community and we get shut down. We are still going to do it, even if we can't show it off. We're not doing it for the recognition, or to get it published.
thats simply it, its a test of our own. If we get shutdown oh well, but what we do in the process of making this game is essential in our other two games, the dual weilding without editing source code, the amount of players/vehicles, etc.
Its to enhance our skills and to enhance our knowledge of torque.
We thought while we were doing it might as well have it to were others can enjoy it as well. Thats why we contacted Bungie, and thats why if they don't approve all word of this game will cease to exist
#11
Just a thought.
BTW, this is a great name generator.
02/14/2006 (2:54 pm)
Option 2: Continue the game. Rename all the characters, using a random name generator (With any found throughout the net). Not get sued. Get recognition.Just a thought.
BTW, this is a great name generator.
#12
Thanks for the reply great idea, but it was already apart of the plan. Spartans Ie. Trojans (haha fliped sides). Brutes ie StrongArms, Elites ie Gaurdians, Grunts ie Welts, and on and on and on adn on....
Thank all you guys for the comments (even tho some were good and some where bad Whatever it takes to make it better)
Monk & Spaz Productions
02/14/2006 (6:15 pm)
@ CameronThanks for the reply great idea, but it was already apart of the plan. Spartans Ie. Trojans (haha fliped sides). Brutes ie StrongArms, Elites ie Gaurdians, Grunts ie Welts, and on and on and on adn on....
Thank all you guys for the comments (even tho some were good and some where bad Whatever it takes to make it better)
Monk & Spaz Productions
Torque Owner Philip Mansfield
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I expect this .plan to *poof* once GG get a look at it, but I would strongly suggest that you don't even link your game to anyone elses if you want to succeed.
Change the character names from the start. It's one thing to say: "It's a game in the style of Halo" it's quite another to say "Here's all the stuff we nicking from Halo to make a game".