Update to the Vision MMO engine
by Vince Gee · 02/09/2006 (8:57 pm) · 5 comments
Folks,
I'm kinda hyped atm, I have spent the last couple days trying to figure out a way around the new problem w/ 1.4 head that we couldn't break the max damage and max energy out of the datablock anymore. (I'm guessing it's due to the new threading system). So, as a test, I rewrote my program to dynamically generate datablocks on the fly for players and npc's so that I can still control the health and energy.
What I really need now is people to go to www.geeconsulting.net register and download the client and post back what they find... lag etc.
Cause this is my bet... the reason this is such a bad idea is because of the bandwidth and memory issues related to it. Well, I'm wondering about that.... When tge came out back in the 90's the best computers where at most 1 gightrz and 500 megs of ram, let alone dialup.... So my bet is this, I put the server on a dedicated box w/ a 1.7 gighrtz cpu, raid 5 harddrives, win 2003 server os, and 1 gig of ram... and I'm monitering my bandwidth and will try to compare it to last week.
My bet is that this isn't as much as a concern as it use to be w/ modern technology such as high speed and faster computers....
Be warned though, the login process take a lil longer now.
I'll post my testing results when I feel confident about them, maybe I can get 25-50 people online this weekend to see if my 384 dsl line up can handle em.... If that can't handle em I'll upgrade it to 784 up and try again....
The way I see it, is that if no one test's this and just takes facts from 10 years ago at face value how can we ever really now w/ todays technology.
Vince
I'm kinda hyped atm, I have spent the last couple days trying to figure out a way around the new problem w/ 1.4 head that we couldn't break the max damage and max energy out of the datablock anymore. (I'm guessing it's due to the new threading system). So, as a test, I rewrote my program to dynamically generate datablocks on the fly for players and npc's so that I can still control the health and energy.
What I really need now is people to go to www.geeconsulting.net register and download the client and post back what they find... lag etc.
Cause this is my bet... the reason this is such a bad idea is because of the bandwidth and memory issues related to it. Well, I'm wondering about that.... When tge came out back in the 90's the best computers where at most 1 gightrz and 500 megs of ram, let alone dialup.... So my bet is this, I put the server on a dedicated box w/ a 1.7 gighrtz cpu, raid 5 harddrives, win 2003 server os, and 1 gig of ram... and I'm monitering my bandwidth and will try to compare it to last week.
My bet is that this isn't as much as a concern as it use to be w/ modern technology such as high speed and faster computers....
Be warned though, the login process take a lil longer now.
I'll post my testing results when I feel confident about them, maybe I can get 25-50 people online this weekend to see if my 384 dsl line up can handle em.... If that can't handle em I'll upgrade it to 784 up and try again....
The way I see it, is that if no one test's this and just takes facts from 10 years ago at face value how can we ever really now w/ todays technology.
Vince
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#2
Enough for tonight
Vince
02/09/2006 (9:23 pm)
ok, this is looking bad, we might have more bandwidth these days but I don't think we have enough.. so on to round two... guess I'll be reverting back to the old build and figuring out whats wrong w/ the code changing the datablocks dynamically... I must be missing some mask settings when I do it or something.... Enough for tonight
Vince
#3
02/10/2006 (12:47 am)
Bandwidth hasn't been an issue at all for MoM... CPU is another story entirely. If you haven't already, you should run the profiler and check out what the CPU is doing with player/bots... Torque's player collision code is an absolute killer. I wrote a very simple version for MoM. Another thing you can do (which I did) is to 1/2 the engine's tick rate. This helps bandwidth and CPU. 
#4
I found a load of speedups I could do when I last looked, but I'd suggest maybe looking at Bens solution in the RTS pack for inspiration there. Especially for an MMO.
02/10/2006 (1:32 am)
I'll add an "amen" to that. Josh hit the nail on the head.. player's physics is kinda sloow. Given what its doing.I found a load of speedups I could do when I last looked, but I'd suggest maybe looking at Bens solution in the RTS pack for inspiration there. Especially for an MMO.
Torque Owner Vince Gee
Winter Leaf Entertainment
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