Digg Is Great

#41 on second thought jeff, that wasn't so bad, you need to thicken that skin a little ;)
only one guy was outright rude, the other with the ballmer reference was just poking fun, and then after that you had a gg fan dress the thread with some praise. either way though, digg still rules.

were they further down? maybe tribalwar has completely densensitized me to internet attacks.

#42 Slashdot is pure garbage. Sure there are some interesting posts at the top level, but once you get beneath that it's one big clusterf***...and I'm just talking about the layout. I've grown accustomed to uninformed idiots on the Internet, and at times I am part of that crowd. However, coupling ignorance with a crappy layout makes it suck twice as much.

Digg is very nice, IMO, especially because you can read the articles without ever knowing there is commentary going on behind the scenes. I use Digg for information, and it provides a wealth of it.

#43 I didn't see to much bad stuff there. Did it get moderated? I don't think it was the right place to try and get any intelligent discussion going though.

I loathe slashdot anyway. I have found digg to be quite useful for headline skimming.

I hope this doesn't post twice, but my post didn't seem to submit the first time

#44 Dude I coudln't even find your post, and I couldn't see any Anti-MS fud in there at all.
That really shocked me.

#45 Slashdot is entertainment, not news. All news is late and/or biased (even compared to the Google newsbot) and the comments are all about being as cynical, sarcastic, or anti-MS as possible. Dissapointing.

#46 Use your anger and hatred to write some tutorials of TGE... funnel the energy.

#47 I bookmarked Digg.com Jeff. Thanks for the link, should be a cool read once in a while. Also, congrats on the release of TGE 1.4 and the xbox 360 version of marble blast. I've seens lots of cool things going on around here.

#48

Quote:Pretty much summed up, GarageGames is a lame developer, I'm a Ballmer fanboi, etc.

I get the impression that they only think high budget commercial games are good? Hmm...what's really funny here is that out of all the Xbox 360 games I've played such as King Kong, Kameo, Call of Duty2, etc. Marble Blast Ultra is by far the best of them. And that really says something if indies can do that.

#49 They were being nice to you, Jeff!

You have to consider the audience that /. targets. No one over there wants to hear about paying for content they feel should be free.

LOL... don't be so surprised with those guys. ;)

#50 I've kinda given up on reading /. For the longest time they were my one source, but now Jeff's nailed it with their stupid, sniveling, idiotic rants. The majority of the crowd is probably 13 (or younger) and hasn't seen the light of day -- ever.

- Brett

#51 Aww..dont be mean to 13 year olds. We're not all bad, we just usually dont know what we're talking about. I must say though, I was really unimpressed with that site.

#52 David Bunt -

Twitch action rules! It will be a while before Puzzle Gaiden is done, so I won't be able to help with anything for a while. :(

Lot's of work yet :)

#53 Truly no offense Jeff, but honestly when I was reading your post, it seemed so positive that it almost made me feel like I was reading a typical sales pitch. Maybe this is what set some of them off. But of course, that still does not justify for them to slam you verbally for it. People are retards, especially on the internet.

I myself am very anti Microsoft, but times are changing and as a programmer, I recently decided that I must adapt to their new technologies, as this is the way we all move forward in the industry. Some fellow Linux zealots may see me as a sellout, but what I have given to the Linux community cannot be taken back, therefore I am forever a Linux contributor.

Like others in this thread, I have also noticed that most large mainstream community sites have the rudest members. I remember looking at other peoples' UT2004 homemade content on the Atari forums, and many of the senior members would make disgustingly rude comments to the newbie level designers, eg: "Why do you have to post every piece of crap that you make on here?", rather than give constructive feedback. Sometimes other senior members would stick up for the newbies, only to get flamed at also.

#54 It's easy to be an a$$ online when the other person can't reach over and smack you upside the head. :)

#55 Here is a funny blog post about the 360 and the wonderful people over at slashdot

neopoleon.com/blog/posts/16512.aspx

#56 Jeff,

You bet. Thats an opinion I share as well. There seems to be a great chasm in the tech industry, not just on slashdot. Its everywhere. A sort of stagnation or slipping of the places that used to be special. Slashdot and many other good sites seem to have lost their luster. There are many sharp individuals out there, and I believe their absence is a signal that great new things are on the way. It seems that the whole industry is in change, and I think for the better.

What you see now is a dying off of the old ways, and slashdot is one of the many sites going down hill. The best clue that change is coming is a high tide of idiots filling in the gaps. The gaps, the missing intellect, is a sign that the bright people have moved on to something better. I think this is true for the technology industry as a whole.

I belive that a new era is just around the corner. In my opinion its all a matter of bandwidth. Once the vast majority of consumers can get what they need with a click of a button the whole world (I'm spealing tech world) will change. The smart ones are starting their own companies and preparing for it. They know that the barrier between them and the customer is about to be removed. That holds true for news sites as well. With the advent of google, the sharp people will draw a pull to their own new sites. It wont just be news, it'll be something new too.

The founders of slashdot and other news sites have moved on. Case in point:


lxer.com/module/newswire/view/1/
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What is this?

This is LXer (pronounced Elexer), a Linux news site.

Another news site?

Yes, it sure is. It's another news site, just like a few others that are already out there.

Why the duplication of effort? What makes LXer any different from everyone else?

This is the big sticky point with me. The way I see it, there are only a few REALLY top-notch Linux news websites. They are:

* LWN.net
* NewsForge

The editors of LWN.net produce some outstanding content. Their weekly edition is top-notch and, should you choose to subscribe, is worth every penny you give them. Kudos - I love LWN.net. They are, however, not as focused on "up to the minute" news, in lieu of a slower release cycle with a more refined product.

NewsForge and Linux Today (formerly an excellent newswire, but today suffering from huge problems) both suffer from the same problem: over commercialization. Truly, a news site need not use flashy advertisements and affiliate programs with dating services.

What is needed now is a Linux news site with the following qualifications:

1. Driven by an editor who knows and cares deeply about this community.

2. Has a minimum of advertisements, and the few that it has should be relevant to Linuxers. Related to this is that the site should have a very clean and simple layout without any fancy graphics or formatting.

3. Is frequently updated with useful and interesting stories, announcements, reviews, security alerts and editorials.

4. Has a plethora of useful features to make access to the news easy in a variety of ways.

5. Has easy community participation - discussion forums and moderated story submission.

6. Has an open database - our news (including external links) that we are accumulating is available in XML format and readily accessible to anyone who wants it.

After several years, I have decided that I am up to the challenge, and the above is my mission statement. My competition is NewsForge and Linux Today. LWN.net is a very different site with very different goals, and I think we will always complement each-other nicely.

So who are you?

I am Dave Whitinger. I worked for Red Hat in 1997, and in 1998 I co-founded Linux Today with Dwight Johnson. After selling Linux Today to internet.com, I worked with Atipa in their web services department until everyone was laid off. For much of 2002, I worked for the good folks at LWN.net, helping them with business development issues after their unacquisition from TUCOWS.

I patiently waited for this day for a long time. January, 2004 marks an important milestone in my history with Linux news, and this is the month that I have been planning my re-entry into this field.

I hope you enjoy the website, and find it useful and maybe a little fun. If I may be of any service to you at all, please don't hesitate to call on me.

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Most of last year I was pondering this very thing. Where did all the smart people go? They are doing what Garage Games is doing, building something they can own. Trouble is something good doesnt happen overnight. It takes time. So in the mean time here come the dummies filling in the vacuum.

Britton

#57 Jeff,

Yeah you called it, digg is awesome. Ivan and Joe's post show they agree: Digg is one of the new wavers. This is where the smart people went. And its all indie start up stuff. Here is a nice article on how it all began.

www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_47/b3960426.htm

I love indie success stores.

#58 [/mini-soapbox]
It's the general trend mentioned here about quality sites losing their quality that reinforces to me not only the quality of this community, but the general moderator (and yes, I'm the primary moderator, so this is self-serving) tactics used to maintain said quality.

It's a major part of the vision of GarageGames that we want to be THE web community for Independent Game Developers, and community observations about the downfall in quality/major decreases in signal-to-noise of other sites that in the past have been the destination of choice for their market do quite a lot to reinforce the minimalistic, but very focused community management we instill here with our community.

And finally, I wanted to give a personal note of thanks to each and every one of you that have helped to achieve the professionalism of our forums--quite honestly, it's done quite a lot to help GarageGames achieve, and continue to achieve success.

Keep it up, we rock!
[/mini-soapbox]

#59 Stephen,

Yessir, I didn't have to mention it, GG is one of these new indie sites with a new concept and business model. It takes time to build it. As soon as you get something good, but before you reall know what its worth, thats when you have to be cautious. Watch out for the VC money and the strings that come with it. They will kill the fun and steal your soul.

The GG guys learned their lesson and started this indie games movement. The devil will be back pretty soon with some fantastic deals, trying to leverage the great work you guys put in place.

#60 I hate to say it but i read that article and the posts and you had two anon posts pretty much from trolls.

I mean thats kinda like me saying Torque sucks for this this this and then going to post on another website how you guys are rude. There is just ppl on every site that are retarded. No matter where you do anything on the net someone will crisitize it even if it isnt legitimate critisim. This happens to all major websites. Or heavily biased sites. Your post was a good post and it was modded as such and their ignorant responses wered 0 (last i checked) how did the system now work?