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Looking at the world in a different way...

by Demolishun · 02/04/2012 (11:22 pm) · 21 comments

The internet is truly becoming a powerful way to converse on ideas of a scientific nature. I just never imagined where it would lead!

This blog is going to deviate from my other blogs and is relevant in the sense of it could be a cool idea for a game.

For some background I am trained as an electrical engineer. It was at a tech school so I spent 36 months straight with no breaks learning everything from electron flow theory to Laplace transforms (don't remember those at all) all relating to electronics and electrical theory and practical applications. So my perspective is not from a naive point of view when it comes to science.

It started when my kids and I started looking at some of the fringe science videos on youtube. Yes, the weird part of youtube. We were interested in some of the information about the pyramids in Egypt. In particular we found some videos that were professionally done that conjectured that the pyramids were used as power plants, and were never intended to bury anyone. This intrigued us as it made some logical sense. Then some of the videos talked about the materials and how they were used to construct what amounts to be an ion collection framework. Another video supposed the vents in the pyramid were used to put chemicals in the structure so it could cause a chemical reaction. Part of this reasoning was the salt caked on the walls inside the pyramid. This was pretty interesting stuff that sounded plausible.

Then it got really interesting. One of the videos said there are no torch smoke marks on the inside of any of the Egyptian structures. This is where I paused and said, "What were they using to light the structures then?" Then they showed the wall drawings that showed the Egyptians holding light bulbs. Huh! How is that even possible? It also showed what looked like coils embedded into the ground to receive energy from the sky. The only person I knew of in history that had done anything like that was Nikola Tesla. I was flabbergasted!

Then it got a LOT more interesting. There is a small gold airplane looking gold toy they found in one of the tombs. Some engineers got the dimensions of the gold airplane and scaled it up to model size. They made two airplanes: one with prop propulsion and the other with jet propulsion. Then they took the planes out and flew them. They are perfectly aerodynamic! How can a gold toy/pin made 5 to 10 thousand years ago be perfectly aerodynamic?!

I am still in a bit of a shock over what we found. As we continued to search we found that there are pyramids being uncovered in Europe, there are huge ones in South America, and there might even be some in China. Then the gravity of the whole thing hit me. Whatever ancient civilization created the pyramids made them to produce power. This power was used to run their equipment, fly their planes, and allowed them to travel the entire globe. This is why all the pharaohs have tested positive for cocaine. They were getting it shipped/flown in. Something happened and that entire civilization collapsed.

This could be a really cool thing to explore in a game settings. Some sort of discover the ancient secrets type adventure. The other cool thing about it is conjuring up what life would be like if this version of history is how it was. We will never know for sure, but adding the idea that the Egyptians had electricity solves some of the questions I had about that period of history, but it also opens a whole host of others. Did they use power tools to build the pyramids? Did they have a working knowledge of advanced physics? Did they use electricity to lift the blocks? Is there a connection to how Ed Leedskalnin built the stone structure in Florida? His response to people when people asked how he did it was: I discovered the secrets of the pyramids. There are just so many possibilities!

At any rate, have fun with your own journeys into fringe science. There is a lot of potential story lines there and great fun to be had by all!

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#1
02/05/2012 (12:52 am)
There are certainly many interesting theories out there.
#2
02/05/2012 (7:10 am)
I wouldn't mind these things being used to inspire a game as long as it's harmless. Holocaust denial being a prime example of people questioning history, it's not all good. Half of Americans can't accept evolution is a fact which is pretty worrying, without adding more fuel to the fire.
#3
02/05/2012 (7:11 am)
Woot ... YouTube here I come. 8-}

I have always tried to watch anything about Ancient Alien theories and Pyramid Theories ... had no idea there was so much history about these on the YouTube.

Very interesting idea and definitely something worth looking in to. 8-}

YouTube -- YouTube -- Right 4'o'clock -- Tally Ho.
#5
02/05/2012 (11:07 am)
I had a girlfriend a few years back, who in a past life was a survivor from Atlantis -- the stories she could tell about sounds and sights and alien/magical technology when she was off her medication!
#6
02/05/2012 (12:46 pm)
@Steve,
That is the funniest dang thing I have seen in a long time. You just described a good portion of the weird part of youtube.

@BigDaz,
"Harmless" being "doesn't challenge the state sponsored position or version of history"? Last I heard Darwin's Theory of Evolution was still a theory, as is Einstein's Theory of Relativity, and Maxwell's Dynamical Theory of the Electromagnetic Field. Over time we come up with better ways to explain the mechanisms we observe through observation and formulate new theories. So, not accepting a theory is not a sign of irrational thinking as some in academia would have people believe. There is a lot of politics in our school systems and that is not necessarily good for science.
#7
02/05/2012 (2:07 pm)
Frank@ It could definitely make a cool sci-fi / x-com / x-files style storyline in a game ... had many similar ideas whenever I see those history channel shows or read up more on egyptian and mayan cultures.

The challenge would be how to "visualize" the story, while still leaving room for doubt -- so the audience keeps guessing. X-files did a good job of that.

I started writing up such a story ... starting back in cave-man days, with alien visitors making "human slaves" by combining monkey and alien dna, to make "worker slaves" ... and the game play would include the "human slave revolt", our "awakening" and us getting kicked out of Eden.

Then advancing forward in time, to "act out / experience" each new piece of the puzzle ... like the supposed "war of the gods" that happened on earth. Where the "fallen angels of god" came down to earth, had babies with us (lowly) humans and then used us to fight their wars.

eventually end that scene with the great flood ... and (again) near extention of mankind.

etc...




#8
02/05/2012 (2:24 pm)
Evolution is "just a theory". But so is the idea that the Earth orbits the Sun. Both are backed up with solid evidence and accepted as fact.

Here's is a great retort from QI -
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGx-Typ_pGg
#9
02/05/2012 (5:06 pm)
@Jeff,
Cool idea! I like the references to the events in Genesis.

@BigDaz,
So do you subscribe to the theory that accepting a Biblical system of beliefs negates the ability to accept a theory of how organisms adapt and change?
I generally look to scientific journals and texts rather game show hosts for scientific topics.
#10
02/05/2012 (6:42 pm)
Hey, interesting blog Frank!
I like your style ;)

@Jeff, I like that script :)
I would add a modern day gameplay mechanic, on how all those ancient powers still push around the pieces, and the player has to sort it out.

@Bigdaz

"Theory" in science relates to a given hypothesis being supported by evidence, yet subjected to posible new evidence that defies it. Because the only fact is always the subject of study, and NOT the theory in itself.

In fact taking any theory as dogma, goes against the very principles of what the cientific method proposes.

And last, but not least: people should be encouraged to question history. People should be encouraged to question anything! There is nothing worrying on not taking as facts things that are simply told to us.
#11
02/05/2012 (9:29 pm)
@Jeff,
I found a video that shows some structures unearthed up near mount Ararat. The structure were built by master stone masons and are quite old. They have animals carved onto the surface and some are literally sticking out of the stone. As they uncover more of the structure they started to wonder if the structures had something to do with Noah. Possibly due to the animals and things. Then they realized the entire structure was buried in sand on purpose it looks like. They dated the stones and it seems to be about 11,000 BC I think. That puts the stones near or at the end of the last ice age. If that is true it could be something that was built by those related to Noah's ark. That would change the date of the event in the Bible. Whatever the case it means there was some serious masonry going on in Eastern Europe around 11,000 BC.

If you want to check out something really interesting check this out:
www.starchildproject.com/

This one makes Steve's comment especially good!
troll.me/images/ancient-aliens-guy/im-not-saying-it-was-aliens-but-it-was-aliens-thumb.jpg
#12
02/05/2012 (10:53 pm)
Uh. Link? :^P
#13
02/06/2012 (12:14 am)
@Charlie,
No link, just a picture. It is just hilarious the expression on the guys face.

#14
02/06/2012 (5:52 am)
@BigDaz,
So do you subscribe to the theory that accepting a Biblical system of beliefs negates the ability to accept a theory of how organisms adapt and change?
I generally look to scientific journals and texts rather game show hosts for scientific topics.

Well it does seem to be design or evolution for a lot of people, particularly in America. There are many people who do both, notably Pope Jean Paul II. This is probably the best discussion I've seen on the subject - www.youtube.com/watch?v=po0ZMfkSNxc
#15
02/06/2012 (8:33 am)
I think this is a discussion that needs to stop before everyone hates each other...
#16
02/06/2012 (5:52 pm)
This thread has the potential to get nasty quickly. That said...everyone knows that the pyramids were, in fact, landing pads for Ha'tak.

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<3 Stargate


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@BigDaz: The BEST discussion of theistic evolution is probably coming from Francis Collins. The George Coyne interviews are actually somewhat disappointing in that it's the most genuinely I've seen Dawkins deal with a person a faith, and Coyne (around 3:00 in the second video) fails to provide a statement of "this is why I believe what I believe" other than to say he grew up with it. Similarly failing to describe the inspiration of scripture in the 3rd.
#17
02/06/2012 (6:48 pm)
@BigDaz,
I don't know if you have actually been to America, but "the media perspective of America" != "America". They have their own agenda for portraying American's this way. America is a conglomerate of people with vastly different beliefs. I am guessing that America would not be unlike a center of civilization like Egypt was at one time. Especially with planes whizzing back and forth between the continents. Maybe back when the Ha'tak were using the Pyramids to regenerate their power supplies in their pleasure cruisers, the people rebelled, blew up the ships, and burned the great library so nobody would open the gates again. There are doorways in many places in South America that are supposed to be ethereal doorways to other dimensions. There are legends of people disappearing into them never to return. That is probably where the ideas for the movie came from.

Of course anything of that sort would be just crazy talk and call into question whether burritos were in fact invented in Mexico or they were imported by some very short grey gentlemen that liked to tango with the fair daughters of men... Cause if I were an alien I totally would go for the chicks on Earth rather than some hairless sickly grey chick. Besides the line, "Hey I am from another planet." just does not go that far with alien chicks.

Ahhhhh, back on topic, sort of.

#18
02/07/2012 (6:05 am)
One of the most interesting parts of the Stargate story, that usually goes near unnoticed, is that the star fellas use humans on multiple planets, so its interesting to think of a Universe where actual humans live all across the universe, without knowledge.
#19
02/07/2012 (10:32 am)
Novack@ Is that because humans are their "slaves" and thats why they are widespread everywhere?

Kind of ties into the "Panspermia" theory ... basically, suggests that rather than personally visiting all other planets, at some point in the past human DNA was "blown" through out all of the universe and such - likes plants and thier seeds.

Then nature and evolution take over resulting in millions of planets with similiar / related life forms (cousins?) which all grew up in different environments.

It makes for an interesting twist on sci-fi... as it touches on the "are we alone" and "are humans unique" questions.
[urlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia[/url]
#20
02/07/2012 (11:12 am)
Yeah, I think exogenesis may be part of the story. Although panspermia does not contemplate the Pyramids :)
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