Torque 3D Development - Beta 3!
by Brett Seyler · 06/24/2009 (8:45 pm) · 130 comments
Thanks for your patience everyone. I know this was a longer stretch than expected between Beta 2 and 3, but wow, we've been busy!
Download Torque 3D Beta 3 from your Account
Again, we have an enormous list of new stuff (see below), improvements (~200), (fixes (100+) and known issues you'll find posting in the Torque 3D forums.
New Stuff in Beta 3!
Shape Editor - This new feature allows you to apply various changes to a mesh after it is loaded. You can merge animations, define nodes, rename meshes, and more. Tutorial video and extensive docs on this are forthcoming, but it's pretty intuitive to play with, so have fun!

Decal Editor - This allows you to quickly paint and edit decals in the scene. On the engine side, we've done a major rework of Decal-related source code, so it's now much more efficient and significantly easier to understand. As with the Shape Editor, we'll have a tutorial video and extensive docs available soon.

Mesh Road Editor - This allows you to quickly prototype a 3D mesh road. We're stressing the word "prototype" here because there's a lot this tool is not yet wired to do. For example, applying an arbitrary mesh profile (for different shaped roads with curbs for example) is not yet possible. This would be an excellent community project if someone want to give it a go, but we're going to leave this as a prototyping tool in this release.

Beta 3 also includes...




Mac / OSX Support for:
- Basic Lighting
- TerrainBlock
- Water
- ScatterSky
- CloudLayer
- Toolbox
- pureLIGHT



For the full monster list of improvements, fixes, and remaining known issues, see the Torque 3D forums for details.
If you're ready to move to Torque 3D, you can still get your $100 OFF pre-order discount right now. This discount will be reduced to $50 OFF at the end of June. If you're already a Torque 3D owner, congrats! Don't forget to post your Beta 3 feedback in Torque 3D Private Forums. We need your help to get to the finish line!
We've still got a ways to go to fully catch up on the Mac / OSX side, but we're moving quickly. Full feature and stability parity with Windows is our goal for Beta 4.
More development blogs to come. This is post #25.
Torque 3D development blogs:
- Post #1 - Kickoff
- Post #2 - Apparatus and Warrior Camp
- Post #3 - Luma's racing kit
- Post #4 - Josh Engebretson and Web Publishing
- Post #5 - Pricing and Licensing
- Post #6 - Pricing and Licensing CONTINUED
- Post #7 - Wetness & Precipitation
- Post #8 - Screeen Space Ambient Occlusion (SSAO)
- Post #9 - Matt Langley and the Torque Launcher
- Post #10 - Chris Robertson and Collada
- Post #11 - Depth of Field
- Post #12 - Advanced Lighting
- Post #13 - Soft Particles
- Post #14 - World Editor
- Post #15 - Pricing and Licensing ANNOUNCED!
- Post #16 - GDC Live Edition
- Post #17 - River & Road Editors
- Post #18 - Beta is UP!
- Post #19 - Light Rays, Undercity, and the Material Editor
- Post #20 - Mass Market Hardware
- Post #21 - Beta: Part Deux
- Post #22 - Marching Towards Beta 3
- Post #23 - pureLIGHT
- Post #24 - Lighting, Terrain, and Cloth
- Post #25 - Beta 3!
- Post #26 - Coming Soon!
About the author
Since 2007, I've done my best to steer Torque's development and brand toward the best opportunities in games middleware.
#42
06/25/2009 (3:29 am)
Looking good guys!!!!!!
#43
How hard is it to keep track of a discount amount and endline...seriously.
Edit: I do believe Mr. Brady will be joining me on the "GG can barely stand us list". :P
06/25/2009 (3:31 am)
Pure gold Sir Brady!How hard is it to keep track of a discount amount and endline...seriously.
Edit: I do believe Mr. Brady will be joining me on the "GG can barely stand us list". :P
#44
A bit short on words, but ... I thought all of you were slowing DOWN on features? Some serious engine upgrading. Sheesh... Anyone at GG remember this thing they call 'sleep'? Not so much?
Just as long as everyone doesn't burn out over there, keep the good stuff comin'. This is top notch work from where I sit...
06/25/2009 (3:35 am)
Um. Erk. Um. Er. Um... Wow.A bit short on words, but ... I thought all of you were slowing DOWN on features? Some serious engine upgrading. Sheesh... Anyone at GG remember this thing they call 'sleep'? Not so much?
Just as long as everyone doesn't burn out over there, keep the good stuff comin'. This is top notch work from where I sit...
#45
06/25/2009 (3:39 am)
@Brett: It is IE. Looks fine in Firefox, it is center aligned in IE (7 and 8 both).
#46
06/25/2009 (3:43 am)
@Brett- I'm using IE7. Everything looks OK now.
#47
06/25/2009 (4:07 am)
@Sean: I think it's fixed now. Thanks for the heads up.
#48
Can someone explain the workflow and say something about the efficiency?
Are there several types of zones/portals?
Like
- remote portals ( for mirrors )
- direct portals ( for doors )
- transition zones
- occlusion portals ( negative portals to exclude objects from the render pipeline )
...
06/25/2009 (7:24 am)
Quote:
# Portal and Zone objects and exposed them to the World Editor
Can someone explain the workflow and say something about the efficiency?
Are there several types of zones/portals?
Like
- remote portals ( for mirrors )
- direct portals ( for doors )
- transition zones
- occlusion portals ( negative portals to exclude objects from the render pipeline )
...
#49
They are not for jumping the player from one part of the scene to another or for mirrors.
That said if things go well we will expand it to support these concepts.
06/25/2009 (7:35 am)
@Thomas - The Zone and Portal objects are currently just for improved culling of the world. They are not for jumping the player from one part of the scene to another or for mirrors.
That said if things go well we will expand it to support these concepts.
#50
If i place a portal inside of a bigger DTS, are the invisible polygons ignored? Or can portals only handle the complete mesh?
06/25/2009 (7:48 am)
OK, thanks. If i place a portal inside of a bigger DTS, are the invisible polygons ignored? Or can portals only handle the complete mesh?
#51
Wa...hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah........
welcome in beta3......
I has waiting long time.....................
06/25/2009 (8:42 am)
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welcome in beta3......
I has waiting long time.....................
#52
Got a nice speed boost; a plethora of improvements! You guys are kicking some serious butt!!! Keep up the good work!
06/25/2009 (2:20 pm)
WOW! That shape editor is totally awesome!!! Messed with it last night...What a nice addition and a huge time savor! That rocks!Got a nice speed boost; a plethora of improvements! You guys are kicking some serious butt!!! Keep up the good work!
#53
06/25/2009 (4:49 pm)
@J: We kinda ninja'd the shape editor in there, we haven't been talking about it hardly at all publicly. It really helps round out our art pipeline with the Collada pipeline (both the Shape Editor and the Collada pipeline are great work from Chris Robertson) and the material editor (the latest workflow has really improved the material editor in my opinion).
#54
06/25/2009 (5:21 pm)
In a word: Awesome!
#55
The first quote is talking about the "final version" which doesn't have a public release date. Once the final version is released the discount disappears.
The second quote is reminding us the discounts only last while T3D is in Beta and will decline over time to $0 when the final version is released.
06/25/2009 (5:38 pm)
@Andrew - The two quotes are talking about different states of the engine: Final and Beta. The first quote is talking about the "final version" which doesn't have a public release date. Once the final version is released the discount disappears.
The second quote is reminding us the discounts only last while T3D is in Beta and will decline over time to $0 when the final version is released.
#56
Anyway, nice job guys. I look forward to seeing T3D
06/25/2009 (6:31 pm)
Once again being ignored... T_T.Anyway, nice job guys. I look forward to seeing T3D
#57
If that's what was meant, then the sentences need really re-worked because that's NOT what he said. Granted, the difference is small but the way it's written.. it more looks like moving the goal posts so to speak, which bothers me because I know Brett didn't mean it the way it reads.
Anyway, more importantly the Beta looks awesome guys, and either way I will be purchasing it soon. Nice Job!
~LK~
06/25/2009 (8:40 pm)
@ BoneIf that's what was meant, then the sentences need really re-worked because that's NOT what he said. Granted, the difference is small but the way it's written.. it more looks like moving the goal posts so to speak, which bothers me because I know Brett didn't mean it the way it reads.
Anyway, more importantly the Beta looks awesome guys, and either way I will be purchasing it soon. Nice Job!
~LK~
#58
06/25/2009 (8:43 pm)
Holy Cow. I go away for a single day, and...and... Awesome work guys. That's a ton of fixes and addons.
#59
However, my puny little Mobility Radeon X1600 is a bit starved of resources, specially in the Advanced Lighting mode ;) This was to be expected, gladly the Basic Lighting works decently.
Also, I suffered from some serious terrain transparency and fog issues during Beta 1 but they were fixed in Beta 2.
Now the issues are back with some reinforcements, like failig to load the Warrior Camp mission (spits out a termination error) until I run one of the simple mission (like "Blank Room") first.
I recall reading something about renderstates, buffers and Radeon cards when the bug was originally analyzed, maybe someone accidentally left those fixes out (or broke something with the new optimizations).
Anyway, the results for the normal mapped terrain are still great, gotta love that side projection as well!
06/25/2009 (9:50 pm)
T3D is really shaping up!However, my puny little Mobility Radeon X1600 is a bit starved of resources, specially in the Advanced Lighting mode ;) This was to be expected, gladly the Basic Lighting works decently.
Also, I suffered from some serious terrain transparency and fog issues during Beta 1 but they were fixed in Beta 2.
Now the issues are back with some reinforcements, like failig to load the Warrior Camp mission (spits out a termination error) until I run one of the simple mission (like "Blank Room") first.
I recall reading something about renderstates, buffers and Radeon cards when the bug was originally analyzed, maybe someone accidentally left those fixes out (or broke something with the new optimizations).
Anyway, the results for the normal mapped terrain are still great, gotta love that side projection as well!
#60
The official docs for this should be coming soon, but basically the Shape Editor lets you add, rename and delete nodes from your shape. This is useful for adapting a non-Torque model for use in Torque by renaming or adding the 'eye', 'cam' and 'mountX' nodes.
Same deal with animation sequences. You can use the editor to add sequences from external DSQ or DAE files, rename them, split them etc. Great for Collada exporters that munge all the animations into a single sequence, or for adapting a non-Torque model to use the standard 'root', 'run', 'back' etc sequence names.
06/25/2009 (10:10 pm)
@ebQuote:Concerning the Shape Editor, can someone elaborate on "You can.. ..define nodes.. ."?
The official docs for this should be coming soon, but basically the Shape Editor lets you add, rename and delete nodes from your shape. This is useful for adapting a non-Torque model for use in Torque by renaming or adding the 'eye', 'cam' and 'mountX' nodes.
Same deal with animation sequences. You can use the editor to add sequences from external DSQ or DAE files, rename them, split them etc. Great for Collada exporters that munge all the animations into a single sequence, or for adapting a non-Torque model to use the standard 'root', 'run', 'back' etc sequence names.
Torque 3D Owner Andrew Brady
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