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Shaper Domain
Name:Alexander Luddy 
Date Posted:Jun 13, 2006
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When it rains it pours.

About a week and a half ago I was shocked to discover that the Shaper page was gone. Shaper is the tool I am developing. It turns out my registrar had an out of date e-mail so I received no reminders. When the domain expired it appears as though some other entity automatically grabbed it to profit it from my mistake.

The day after this discovery a personal issue arose forcing me to jump on a plane to Canberra (I live in Brisbane - Canberra is a 2 hour flight south) and spend a week there. This delayed the resolution of the domain issue *sigh*

Anyway the Shaper page can now be found here:

inversesoftware.com.au/Shaper/

The .com.au space seem to be far more regulated than the .com space.

In regards to getting my original domain back I would appreciate any advice. Lodging an official complaint appears to be a very expensive process. Making an offer on the domain seems like the wrong thing to do. I do not want to encourage this kind of thing.

The next version of Shaper will be out very soon.

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Surge   (Jun 13, 2006 at 11:48 GMT)
I feel for you, thats a terrible story, especially when your making such a great tool.
Good luck pulling it all back togther. I wish I could give some advice.

Make a new name.
Get a new domain.
Start Marketing again.

-Surge

Ramen-sama   (Jun 13, 2006 at 13:00 GMT)
I had a similiar issue happen with an old website i used to run.

www.animeinc.com

to this day it's still one of them "automated entities"

Stuff makes me sick.

Tom Spilman   (Jun 13, 2006 at 13:34 GMT)
There is nothing you can do about it other than pay whatever price they want for it. That's just how it is.

Stefan Lundmark   (Jun 13, 2006 at 13:50 GMT)
I had this issue yesterday with the outdated hostname and all :/ Sucks.

Good luck to you and your project.

Philip Mansfield   (Jun 13, 2006 at 14:11 GMT)
Yup, sucks to be sure, and without wanting to be too blunt, I doubt there's a lot you can do. It's your responsibility to ensure that your contact details are up to date.

Aaron Ellis   (Jun 13, 2006 at 14:13 GMT)
Alexander,

I'm glad to see that you're back up in some form. I know that some people might disagree, but Shaper is a valuable tool for the Torque community. Especially those of us who buy content packs but are somehow unable to export from the source files (3ds Max format, for example).

So, let me say thanks for everything you're doing.

Aaron E.

Jonathon Stevens   (Jun 13, 2006 at 14:30 GMT)
It sucks, I know, I had a domain name that I had for years and someone snatched it the day after it expired. It still sits on 'buy this domain'. It was a really good domain name too. The thing you can complain about is the fact that the registrars are SELLING lists of domain names that are expiring soon to those companies so that they can automatically snatch them up as soon as they are available.

Michael \"Evic\" Wales   (Jun 13, 2006 at 16:17 GMT)
This is why we always make sure to registar our domain with a reputable registrar (I personally use GoDaddy, it makes it very easy to manage my 20+ domains). Then when we get that email every 3 months that says, "Make sure your contact info is correct" we go and make sure our contact info is correct. I believe the period is every 3 months, maybe 6, but the registrar is required by ICANN to send you that notice and you are technically required by ICANN to make sure your contact info is correct.

Tom Spilman   (Jun 13, 2006 at 16:28 GMT)
Our experience with this just pissed me off.

I lookup Sickhead.com and there is no website on it, but it's registered. So i try to contact the owner to see if he's willing to sell. Funny thing is that i cannot reach him. All the contract information is wrong. So i contact netsol and inform them and they start the process of releasing the domain. I figured i'd setup one of those quick snatch services to pickup the domain the instant it was available.

So 4 months go by and the domain is released.... but some other asshat grabs it before i do. So now sickhead.com has some stupid parked site and after i did all the leg work to free it, i'll still have to pay this jerk off $1500 to buy it back from him.

It drives me freaking mad when i think about it.... so i don't. X[

Tom Bentz   (Jun 13, 2006 at 17:31 GMT)
I registered a domain name once with some random (cheap) registrar. Found out the next day that it was listed under someone else. Called the registrar and they said they tried to call me (I never got a phone call from them) to verify that it wasnt a fraud charge (isnt that nice of them). Since they never got in touch with me they reversed the registration and charges and someone else got it. I still think they sold it to someone else. Jerks. Since then I stick with network solutions. Its more expensive but I dont worry about that crap anymore.

Phil Carlisle   (Jun 13, 2006 at 18:11 GMT)
The whole domain name thing is dodgy at best. Legalised corruption at worst.

Look at domainnameaftermarket and such.

Basically, its gone wild west and nobody is playing the sherrif. Best thing you can do is move on and find another name.

I am reasonbly sure that any time you do a domain name search on many of the registrar websites, they automatically bump up the value of that domain. Then at certain times they buy up a load of domains which have registered interest.

Have a look at Bob Parsons (of godaddy.com) blog about the people who register 100's of thousands of domains and let them expire and register them again. Basically there is a 5 day grace period for a registrar to actually pay for thier bulk domains. So they register 100,000 (say) and then 4.5 days later pull out of registering them (thus paying nothing), then immediately re-register them and loop.

Its a nightmare and I'm sooooo frustrated by it. So now if I ever see a domain I want, I get it.. instantly. No searching, no messing about. straight to godaddy and buy.

Unsung Zero   (Jun 13, 2006 at 18:54 GMT)
Like everyone else suggested, get a new domain. Make it look like it's a grand opening of the new site celebrating the new version of shaper. In other words, make it look intentional. The only people who will know are those who've read this .plan.

Dawson Goodell   (Jun 13, 2006 at 23:11 GMT)
We just had this discussion at work about companies buying domains the second they expire. Forget moving on to a new domain, you can't let them win like that. Find out who bought your domain, find out where he, she, it is and fly there. Then shoot him in the knee caps. Its illegal, its dangerous, its immoral, but you'll enjoy every minute of it.

Anthony Fullmer   (Jun 14, 2006 at 02:51 GMT)
wow, shot knee caps and a few years in prison over an internet domain...somehow doesnt seem worth it...

Frogger   (Jun 14, 2006 at 03:24 GMT)
Maybe this is why I absolutely HATE ICANN! More like ICANNOT do @#$&! Allowing too much freakin' domain parking! Gah!

Good Luck! And, don't submit to the domain parkers.

Ed Averill   (Jun 15, 2006 at 17:47 GMT)
I dunno.. I'd take a few years in jail for the once-in-a-lifetime pleasure of kneecapping some rat-b@$tard of a domain parker. It's the principle of the thing, really - clean up the gene pool. It'd be a public service!

Heh heh heh.

Regardless, best of luck getting things cleared up. My registrar sends me occasional reminder emails, plus once a month I jump on to my domain name control page and make sure everything is good. You just have to stay on top of this stuff on your own.

Erik Madison   (Jul 09, 2006 at 15:17 GMT)
Godaddy is pretty good about this. Lapse your domain, and they hold it for 90 days, giving you a last few chances to get it back. That and they are cheaper than anyone else....

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