Fantasy Dragons 3D models collection

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Peter Simard   (Mar 30, 2008 at 16:22 GMT)

Amazing pack.

I have my credit card in hand to buy it, except for one thing: LOD. If you can add 2 or 3 LODs I will purchase this right away.

Diego Leao   (Mar 30, 2008 at 17:28 GMT)

I rarely see such beautiful model, animations and textures! But then I went to the main site http://www.3drt.com/ and saw many other incredible models... wow.

Some of the sets I liked:
http://www.3drt.com/3dm/sf-forces/3d-models-09-jeeps.jpg
http://www.3drt.com/3dm/characters/mech-robots-pack/character-sci-fi-3D-lowpoly-mech-robots-collection_26.jpg
http://www.3drt.com/3dm/characters/mech-robots-pack/mech-walker-pack-shots.htm (watch the utube video)

The price is fair specially if you're going to use the models in your final product.Nice!

A suggestion: why not make much lesser detailed, budget friendly packs, for "placeholder art" until you're ready to purchase the real pack? You could put a super-low-poly version of the real models, with simplified animations, so that game creators would get a feeling of how the real model would react in the real game environment. Then later they'll purchase the real deal with almost no impact to the game play.

Just a thought.

Benjamin L. Grauer   (Mar 30, 2008 at 18:32 GMT)

Truly amazing work.

Ramen-sama   (Mar 30, 2008 at 19:07 GMT)

wait... $291??? am i reading that right?

Edward   (Mar 30, 2008 at 23:01 GMT)

You wont find a better model set Ramen-sama, You get a high quality model, already animated and in DTS format (plus the source) and you get 33 animation (far more then you would really need) and ungodly number of textures (also a kick butt deal) I have several of the large model packs for this, And its really a great price for the product you recieve.

Stephen Zepp   (Mar 31, 2008 at 03:12 GMT)

Disclaimer: personal opinion below, this isn't an official endorsement of the pack from GarageGames, just an experienced opinion :)

$291 for the entire pack is honestly a steal, when you compare to what it would probably cost to have just one of the models custom produced for you (depending on the artist, and the quality, one model alone would be more than $1,000 US, with additional costs for custom animations).

Gregory Stewart   (Mar 31, 2008 at 04:29 GMT)

I've purchased two collections from 3DRT.com in the past and several single models off of TurboSquid, and I must say that 3DRT's stuff is really great.

Josef Rogovsky   (Mar 31, 2008 at 06:55 GMT)   Resource Rating: 5

beautiful work!

my wallet is going to get lighter.

Ajari Wilson   (Mar 31, 2008 at 15:52 GMT)

Looks great. Considering everything that has been done for you, and the variety of skins and animations (at first I thought they were different models), not to mention how cool they look already, $291 is fair. The only drawback being they aren't custom, but like Stephen mentioned, you'd have to pay a lot more for that anyway. The only question after that is, if you're in need of a dragon and can't build one yourself, is your game/project worth spending $300 on?

Rubes   (Mar 31, 2008 at 16:00 GMT)

Maybe Ramen was just surprised that it was so cheap? ;)

Thak   (Mar 31, 2008 at 19:56 GMT)   Resource Rating: 5

@Peter: LOD's have been added. TSP now shows him at 4462, 3933, 3149, 1827 and 1137 polygons.

I would use the Beast as an Elite or Boss :D Hes quite large and has some awesome anims for firebreath attacks or an AOE fire ring. Theres a mount in his mouth to use with afx for sprayin fire *waggles eyebrows*

Size vs Kork

Julian R   (Mar 31, 2008 at 22:22 GMT)

I've not bought this pack, but once again a great pack from 3DRT. Whenever a new artpack comes out, not just from these guys it's generally a race to see who can get it incorporated into a game and out on the production line to make it more exclusive to you without the price tag, as I doubt you'll get many indies developing a game and releasing them over night and if you did there would be so many people comparing or saying it looks just like that other game without any modifications to the artwork. If you're a commercial developer then you'd probably not go for a pack like this, you'd have your own designed, but great if you did - think of how much you could save !!
Edited on Mar 31, 2008 22:23 GMT

3DRT   (Apr 01, 2008 at 00:03 GMT)

Thank you guys for all the feedback. I'll try to answer some of the questions.
-LODs are already added, thank you Thak, nice job :) If some already ordered it, don't hesitate to drop me a line (via e-mail) and I'll give new download link with LODs.

Diego, yes most of our older packs are of lower quality also we put some free packs online and hope to release more.
Our models aren't cheap and we planned to concentrate more on higher quality products. There will be even more expensive and higher quality collections. There are already lots of simple products available online and we don't plan to fight with them for the market. We have our own vision and want to push the quality to the top. This is a huge pleasure for us to make them and I guess for people who see such models. Even if they don't buy them, at least lots of people can be inspired just looking at them.
And another advantage of such price is lower spread between developers. You will definitely see some 20$ packs all over Internet in couple of months. Some of our collections are on-line for like 5 years already, still lots of people see most of our art for the first time.
So we'd better have x10 times less customers but at least make them x2 times happier :)

Julian, of course it is a disadvantage of non exclusive art that it can be used by other people but:
a) as I mentioned above we have lower spread due to they aren't affordable to everybody.
b) we have worked out our own technique, that allows us to supply lots of textures and even .PSD sources, so just sit there for 10 mins and you get your own unique look.
c)definitely custom made art is best way to personalize your project, but it is expensive (at least we'll create same quality at x10 times higher price for exclusive rights).
d)and again even making your own art, imagine how much time can you save working not from scratch but having a base model? At least using animations alone, imagine amount of time and money saved.

And last but maybe not most important for majority reason to our growing prices is insanely rapidly dropping value of dollar. :)
I bet it is hardly noticeable from inside US, but $ dropped like 30% down compared to euro and even more compared to our native currency. And hey it is not stopping :)

P.S. our newsletter subsribers always get discount codes for newly released packs. So there are some easier ways. :)
Edited on Apr 01, 2008 00:04 GMT

Will Zettler   (Apr 01, 2008 at 15:28 GMT)

3drt:

Did you do the other pack on that site as well? The Robot back located here: http://www.3drt.com/3dm/characters/mech-robots-pack/mech-walker-pack-shots.htm cause the price has two price tags on it $299 and $191. I'll buy it at $191 but not $299. Is there a way you can check the links on it or let me know what the deal is? I tried ordering and links atop and on the bottom only say $299. Please let me know and I'll be buying it today from you if I can get it for the lower price. Thanks much.

Will
dlstorminc@yahoo.com
PS: The pack is totally unique and I wont have to worry about someone from Mech Warrior coming to sue me for using the pack in my upcoming game Torque Titans right? Thanks for the info

3DRT   (Apr 01, 2008 at 17:02 GMT)

Will
All the packs on website our developed by us.
As for robots pack, yes it was a glitch after yesterday's website update. Just checked everything and price is normal 191 as it should be. So don't worry, proceed safe.
Yes this is completely unique our own design. The only thing in common they have with microsoft mechs, is the fact that these are robots walking on 2 legs. So again no reasons to worry.
There was initially a model that came out looking similar to madcat. It was removed just because of such similarities in design.

Will Zettler   (Apr 01, 2008 at 19:22 GMT)

3dRT:

The product looks awesome and beautiful. I'm going to pick it up today. Can you tell me about how big the download will be on the robots? I figured about 3-400 megs worth. One zip file I take it? Can't wait to add it to my game. Very well done on the work... About the dragons... is all this one model of a dragon and just multi skins? I could def use the pack in a upcoming game based on a dragon, well... multi dragon types. It would be of a dragon slayer who is the last one of his kind and well, slaying dragons. Any advise on a quality pack like this dragon and robot pack for a game like that? It would features multi kinds of dragons like 2-3 and 1 headed, big, small and everything in between. Anyways Thanks again for the info and again great pack, can't wait to get in on it today.

Will

3DRT   (Apr 02, 2008 at 10:22 GMT)

Will Zettle, don't hesitate to send me your questions via e-mail.
As for dragons there is 1 mesh and lots of skins.
Here is a video of dragons in Torque ShowTool.

Deozaan   (Apr 04, 2008 at 03:03 GMT)

I looked at the animation browser and some of the screenshots.

I can't help but notice some sort of change in quality. Something looks especially wrong with the body of the dragon right around where the front arms/legs connect to the body. It's strange because I can't see this from the screenshots, but after watching it in movement for 10 seconds I was like, "What's wrong with the dragon?"

There just seem to be huge gaps in his body, like his chest is caved in or something.

3DRT   (Apr 04, 2008 at 10:35 GMT)

First of all would be nice to know what "animation browser" is :)
If you are referring to shockwave demo, of course there is a change of quality. Textures sizes are reduced, animation and mesh data is compressed. Bones movement isn't precise as in original file.
A purpose of shockwave demo is to give an idea how the model looks in action not to judge precision of mesh and joints.
Edited on Apr 04, 2008 10:36 GMT

3DRT   (Apr 06, 2008 at 23:44 GMT)

Also a video of rendered dragons in action.

Scott Warren   (May 10, 2008 at 13:16 GMT)

Perhaps I wasn't understanding or reading it in the post... Does this model include everything used so customers can modify the Model to their own liking and if so, is it available for Lightwave 9?

Edit: Some of us Like the model to be mountable and able to modify the model to be truly unique across the board.
Edited on May 10, 2008 13:20 GMT

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