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Stephan (viKKing) Bondier   (Sep 04, 2006 at 09:22 GMT)

Nice models.

Edit your blog and correct URL tags: blabla, much more convenient for readers.

Keep up the good work coming.

STef

edit:
Got them fixed for you:
www.kimmygorden.com/carrisian_fighter.jpg

www.kimmygorden.com/carrisian_fighter2.jpg

www.kimmygorden.com/carrisian_fighter3.jpg

www.kimmygorden.com/GFED_sig.jpg

edit:
edit icon is right of your name on top of the message.

STef
Edited on Sep 04, 2006 15:41 GMT

Kimmy Gorden   (Sep 04, 2006 at 15:04 GMT)

thanks Stephan!

I can't seem to find a edit button...Man, am I in trouble with this game design or what!?

T.J. Bynum   (Sep 04, 2006 at 15:59 GMT)

Cool ships!! Go Kimmy go!!! ... I don't think you are in trouble.. I think you are learning stuff like a lot of others have before us...

Alan Hembra   (Sep 05, 2006 at 13:10 GMT)

Pretty cool. The fighter reminds me of Wing Commander.

Kimmy Gorden   (Sep 06, 2006 at 05:16 GMT)

Continuing on with this. I decided to build a character that I can import.
I chose to build a Robot that the player would be able to chose as a character.

I built him in pieces so that the player can exchange parts- like the head with other parts (that I am in the process of building as well).

Here is the model- which weighs in at 2527 faces. I was shooting for 2000 but I am a poly hog.

The limited polys will force me to rely HEAVILY on textures- which at this point- I don't even know how bad sub-layers and multitextures will hound me.

Well I guess you gotta dive in anyway.

You can see the shots on my blog here:

kimmygorden.blogspot.com

Eric Preisz   (Sep 07, 2006 at 01:25 GMT)

The differences between 2500 polys and 3500 polys is not that big. It's sort of a big discussion as to why, but if you are seeing a difference, then you probably need to work with a programmer who can fix the issue. It's more important that the whole model is mapped to one texture. Changing textures is a bigger performance problem than poly counts (up to a limit ofcourse.) BTW, you may notice more of a poly count issue on TGE than in TSE.

Kimmy Gorden   (Sep 07, 2006 at 03:49 GMT)

Thanks Eric. I haven't even tried to load the character into TGE yet- I was just trying to stay under 3k as a rule (because most people I've read about are doing that- If you allow me to get up to 3500 polys I WILL take them, heh heh.)

I'm going to keep posting my progress as I learn how to even load a character into a scene and try to track the best way to model for my game as I do so- Hopefully I will get more people like yourself to pop in and help me out (and therefore everyone else who is doing this crazy game making thing).

It is my intention to build the characters (.dts files) in parts- Meaning, arms, legs, etc.- and mounting them together to form the character. This way the player can take Arm set 4 combined with Leg set 3 and Body 2 to customize a character. (I think this will work in TGE (and the MMOkit)- again- I really have NO idea.)

I'm doing it this way for three reasons:
1. Player can customize their character.
2. I think it will be less taxing on the engine if players are basically using the same mesh with different textures.
3. I want to have seperate collision boxes so that different areas of the players body will take more damage than other parts.

Okay- NOW I might be approaching this ALL WRONG- or going the long way around- but I'm gonna keep going in that direction until somebody tells me "Yo! Dude. There is a easier/faster way to get where you're going."

NOTE: People who tell me it's impossible to get there from here will be ignored.

Now. Some questions-

Let's say I built this robot with all his parts seperate but equal-

Then I took a part- let's say the Head- and broke it up into little bits Like the face, the ear, the back of the head, etc- in order to texturize the hell out of it.

Then I put all those parts together again as one mesh with all the textures assigned to it making them one texture (what's called a Multi-texture in 3D Max).

Then I made another multi-texture for that same head- but this time I "damage" it a little with some burn marks.

Now. When I load this head (along with the other parts of the body that I've given the same treatment to) is TGE going to freak out when I get shot in the head and it has to replace textures?

Is TGE going to go ape nuts when I start running around with these textures with 12 other guys and a bunch of NPCs with similar treatments for different meshes?

I'm gathering from your post Eric that the answer is YES- but I just want to make sure I'm understanding you right.

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