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Andy Hawkins   (Jul 10, 2007 at 04:58 GMT)

MMMMM- MMO goodness. When can I lay my hands on it? I have an idea for an MMO to rule them all!!!!

Peter Simard   (Jul 10, 2007 at 05:08 GMT)

Was I not supposed to buy anything yet? I bought the commercial critter pack but the download only contains a text file with:

"THIS IS A TEST!"

Prairie Games   (Jul 10, 2007 at 05:12 GMT)

@Peter: We're currently testing the system. The backend is only going through the motions and not actually processing anything. I'll add an additional note about the testing on the ordering page. Let us know if you run into any quirks... thanks!

Edit: I also added a note on each product page that these packs are specifically designed for the Torque MMO Kit and are not compatible with stock TGE without engine modifications.

-PG
Edited on Jul 10, 2007 05:58 GMT

Gareth Fouche   (Jul 10, 2007 at 06:56 GMT)

Dagnabit. I was hoping to snag the creature packs at the very least. What isn't compatible about them? Is there anywhere I could find out what is needed to get them working in stock TGE, without the MMO Kit? Is it just a case of different (more limited than the TGE Player) animations? My single player RPG could use some dragons. :P

Oh man, I would snap those up in a heartbeat if I could use them without the MMOKit. I'm a pretty good programmer and quite comfrotable with TGE, if it wouldn't be too much work to get them in it would be well worth the money and time for me, especially in comparison to the hours it would take me to create those models myself.

Also, by the sounds of it the clothing pack is well layed out into various body parts already. What's the licence? Can I take them, apply them to my own models I've created? Or can I only use them with the avatar pack? Again, I'd snap them up in an instant if I can use them with my own models. :D
Edited on Jul 10, 2007 07:13 GMT

Peter Simard   (Jul 10, 2007 at 07:11 GMT)

Can you explain the differences between these models and stock TGE?

Prairie Games   (Jul 10, 2007 at 07:38 GMT)

The MMO Kit has a customized player class with a material based clothing system, scaling that works for giant and tiny players and creatures, weapon/shield/helm mounting , and different animations (more in tune with RPG, less in tune with FPS). This stuff wouldn't be terribly difficult and should probably be done for an RPG anyway...

BTW, the Torque MMO Kit does single player well too and is really pretty cool. So, that might be an option for you? If you haven't player Minions of Mirth in single player... maybe grab the free edition and give it a shot.

-PG

Peter Simard   (Jul 10, 2007 at 07:42 GMT)

Sounds great, I'll be purchasing the commercial combo pack when you go live.

Prairie Games   (Jul 10, 2007 at 07:43 GMT)

Oh, and here is some draft documentation on the player models so you can see:

DRAFT MODEL SETUP DOCUMENTATION

-PG

Gareth Fouche   (Jul 10, 2007 at 07:45 GMT)

I was planning to do a lot of that anyway, but I would probably give you money just for that player code, lol :) . Its not that I couldn't do it myself, it's just I have limited time to Dev and unfortunately I haven't shaken off the need for "sleep".

I have played the single player MOM and it is pretty cool, but, well, I've got my own way I want to do things, and I have sunk 2 years into coding it up for my requirements, the code base is about 80% complete, so you understand....

Gareth Fouche   (Jul 10, 2007 at 07:46 GMT)

That player model you use, is that a standard Character Studio skeleton? The same as Kork?

Dave Young   (Jul 10, 2007 at 09:01 GMT)

I love the payment stuff! It's the right way to do it, with the notifications shaving off precious human admin time. Well done :)

Leroy Frederick   (Jul 10, 2007 at 11:32 GMT)

Nice update, this is looking more and more solid!

Thak   (Jul 10, 2007 at 23:33 GMT)

@Gareth its the standard biped. Tho not the Kork Setup. Afaict it has one more spine than Kork and its roughly 1.8 meters tall (25% smaller than Kork)

Gareth Fouche   (Jul 11, 2007 at 06:46 GMT)

Hmmm, ok. The Torque Motion Pack and Ragdoll Pack use the standard skeleton, will they then work fine with these models, even with the extra spine?

Thak   (Jul 11, 2007 at 10:28 GMT)

Unlikely, even if they'd work, kork is larger and fatter, which would deform the character somewhat strange.

Magnus Blikstad   (Jul 11, 2007 at 13:10 GMT)

I can say pretty much for certain that any animation pack (or the stock torque animations) won't work. These models were made for Minions of Mirth, it wasn't really my intention that they would ever end up as "content packs" when I made them.... =)

Prairie Games   (Jul 11, 2007 at 14:29 GMT)

@Magnus: Hah, we haven't intended most of what we have been working on for the last, well, almost year! :)

Yup, stock animations and animation packs for stock/standard torque models aren't going to work with the avatar models. The creature models of course have entirely different skeletal systems in the first place... yet another reason for the changes to the player animation system for an RPG.

Gareth Fouche   (Jul 11, 2007 at 14:33 GMT)

Ah well, its the creature packs I'm most interested in, and I wasn't going to use the animation packs with them anyway, so it's not that big a loss.

What about using the clothing/armor textures with our own models? Can we do that? And can we modify the textures for our own game?

Vashner   (Jul 12, 2007 at 03:39 GMT)   Resource Rating: 5

Good progress.

Galen Tingle   (Jul 12, 2007 at 23:21 GMT)

Amazing.

metalliandy   (Jul 13, 2007 at 22:11 GMT)

Looking good :)
Cant wait :D

Peter Simard   (Jul 14, 2007 at 18:07 GMT)

How is the store progressing? Any ETA on when it will be out of test?

Prairie Games   (Jul 14, 2007 at 21:18 GMT)

It is going to be a little bit, we're going to include Milkshape3D files and it takes a bit to get the models converted over:




Edit: fixed image links

-PG
Edited on Jul 14, 2007 21:18 GMT

Wolf Dreamer   (Jul 15, 2007 at 04:09 GMT)

Quote:

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It is still selling and at least keeping the boat floating :) Though, it is a financial worry to have our entire household entirely dependent on it.

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It sells for 30 dollars and you have sold almost 50 thousand copies of it. $30 times 50,000 is $1,500,000. So, I don't see how your family would be starving or anything.

I really do look forward to buying this engine though. Since its already up and running and proven stable, and able to hold thousands of people, all we have to do is add in our own artwork, change some stats, and off we go.

There should be a feature for people to sign up for an email notification once it goes on sale. Just make a post saying "sign up here if you want to be told" and everyone can click "watch this thread for replies", and then whenever you post again telling people its out(make sure its locked so no one but you can post), then people will get an email informing them its ready.

Matt Huston   (Jul 18, 2007 at 13:32 GMT)

You can be a registered player without paying for the game Wolf Dreamer. He isn't giving out his official sales numbers, which I would be willing to bet, no offense to Josh, are probably a small percentage of that 50,000.

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