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Announcing TGB 1.7.3 Open Beta!
Announcing TGB 1.7.3 Open Beta!
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| Date Posted: | Apr 29, 2008 | |
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GarageGames is excited to announce the TGB 1.7.3 Open Beta!
Remember all that talk about community participation and transparent development? We're doing it again. We've done a lot of work (probably way more than the point update would indicate) on TGB 1.7.3 and we want your help to make sure it's really solid before it goes out the door with the official GG stamp of quality on it. If you currently own TGB (Binary or Source), you're invited to participate in the next stage of TGB development!
Ice Wolf -- a TGB game used to help test the new physics changes
If you want to jump right in before reading the rest of this update and already own a license to TGB, you can head on over to your My Account page and get started downloading the TGB 1.7.3 beta installer.
Note: Our Mac installer is going to be slightly delayed, so unfortunately this beta is only for PC users. The Mac build is in the works, so rest assured that we'll have a Mac compliant version of 1.7.3 very soon!
What's in Store for TGB 1.7.3
This update is pretty impressive--from bug fixes to the physics system to quite a few performance optimizations to enhanced documentation and new features, we've got a lot to talk about, so settle down and get ready!
Physics System Updates
Melv May, coding monster that he is, has been hard at work for the last month on optimizing the physics system for TGB, working with many of you to resolve issues by utilizing your real world projects to discover and correct many of the problems the community has discovered while using TGB. He's made a number of optimizations of the underlying code to provide a leaner, meaner, faster than before physics system. Here's a non-exhaustive list of things that have been addressed for this update:
*Added tick-physics smooth object rotation.
*Added tick-physics smooth particle interpolation.
*Added per-tick scene callback.
*Added "t2dSceneObject::getRenderPosition".
*Fixed tick-physics mounting issues.
*Fixed physics interpenetration issues.
*Fixed physics collision response issues.
*Fixed collision callback reporting issues.
*Fixed position-target system issue.
*Fixed mounting bug in t2dTextObject.
*Improved circle/poly circle/circle collision detection code.
*Improved t2dTrigger performance
*Improved contact-history renderer.
Some of this stuff is tough to "get" just reading the bullets, so Melv did a few video captures to show some of the bigger differences between the ways 1.7.2 handles collisions and physics in general to the new, much more accurate and efficient TGB 1.7.3. Check 'em out below:
Click any image to watch the movies
Physics System Theory Documentation
One of the things Melv discovered during his interaction with the community was that in some cases, the theory and best practices for optimizing the performance of a game wasn't clear enough to allow developers to properly use the systems the way they were intended. To help inform TGB developers of the best practices and underlying concepts of the TGB physics system, he's provided another of his amazingly detailed discussions to help illuminate the sometimes confusing details of TGB collision and physics. Here is just a sample:
New Game Demos and Documentation
The community has asked for new examples of how TGB can be used to make a variety of game types, and we've responded! Thanks to the hard work of Tom Eastman , Matt Langley and a member of our intern team, Robert Potter, we bring you some new game examples:
Reactor
Solitaire
As well as a Behavior based version of the Shooter Demo, Blackjack, and an enhanced Checkers Demo!
All of the new Game Demos come with full TorqueScript, images, and can serve as starting points for an even larger variety of game types for the new user.
In addition to the four new Demos, we've also greatly increased the reference level documentation of TGB's user API, providing even more detailed information on hundreds of TGB classes and their methods. Here's an example:
New Functionality: Built in A-Star Pathfinding
We always love to see users enhancing Torque to accomplish cool things, and it's even better when they decide to give back to the community the results of their hard work as a resource or asset for the community to use. Sometimes, the contribution is so nice to have that we decide it should become a core feature of future products.
One perfect example is the amazing work done by Phil Shenk on his resource A-Star Pathfinding Extension for T2D -- a C++ implementation of a very popular and powerful path finding algorithm used in hundreds if not thousands of 2D and 3D games.
Based extensively on Phil's resource, we're proud to announce that Torque Game Builder 1.7.3 now provides integrated A-Star Pathfinding for any TGB object. We've taken Phil's resource and provided a TorqueScript interface that allows even binary only TGB owners to use real time path finding within their game, including dynamic modifications of the world affecting current and future paths.
We've also written a new tutorial to teach the basics of the TGB aStar API, Attack of the Mutant Butterflies!
You have Become Better at Transparent Development (100)!
As I mentioned above, we've been very impressed with the community participation we've received so far during our Transparent Development strategy, and we're ready to take it to the next step: interactive development.
For the TGB 1.7.3 update, this will take place in two different ways:
Enhancement of the aStar Pathfinding feature for future releases
The aStar implementation provided with this update has some interesting features, but there's always room for improvement! Over the course of both the 1.7.3 open beta period, and in the following months we will be looking for active feedback and contributions to make the feature even more powerful for you, the community. We hope to see both developers brand new to TGB and power developers that have been with us since the beginning work together to further enhance the aStar capabilities built in to TGB.
A soon to be announced interactive project between GarageGames and the Community
I'll save the details for a .plan in the very near future, but we will be sponsoring an interactive development project for the community based on the aStar functionality. Stay tuned for further announcements, but I'll leave you with this teaser:
TGB 1.7.3 Beta Discussion/Reporting
Here are a couple of posts that should be used when discussing this beta, as well as directions for how to submit bugs:
TGB aStar General Discussion
How to submit bugs for TGB 1.7.3 beta
TGB 1.7.3 Installation/general questions
Full change list
Known Issues with TGB 1.7.3 beta 1
Remember all that talk about community participation and transparent development? We're doing it again. We've done a lot of work (probably way more than the point update would indicate) on TGB 1.7.3 and we want your help to make sure it's really solid before it goes out the door with the official GG stamp of quality on it. If you currently own TGB (Binary or Source), you're invited to participate in the next stage of TGB development!
If you want to jump right in before reading the rest of this update and already own a license to TGB, you can head on over to your My Account page and get started downloading the TGB 1.7.3 beta installer.
Note: Our Mac installer is going to be slightly delayed, so unfortunately this beta is only for PC users. The Mac build is in the works, so rest assured that we'll have a Mac compliant version of 1.7.3 very soon!
What's in Store for TGB 1.7.3
This update is pretty impressive--from bug fixes to the physics system to quite a few performance optimizations to enhanced documentation and new features, we've got a lot to talk about, so settle down and get ready!
Physics System Updates
Melv May, coding monster that he is, has been hard at work for the last month on optimizing the physics system for TGB, working with many of you to resolve issues by utilizing your real world projects to discover and correct many of the problems the community has discovered while using TGB. He's made a number of optimizations of the underlying code to provide a leaner, meaner, faster than before physics system. Here's a non-exhaustive list of things that have been addressed for this update:
Some of this stuff is tough to "get" just reading the bullets, so Melv did a few video captures to show some of the bigger differences between the ways 1.7.2 handles collisions and physics in general to the new, much more accurate and efficient TGB 1.7.3. Check 'em out below:
Physics System Theory Documentation
One of the things Melv discovered during his interaction with the community was that in some cases, the theory and best practices for optimizing the performance of a game wasn't clear enough to allow developers to properly use the systems the way they were intended. To help inform TGB developers of the best practices and underlying concepts of the TGB physics system, he's provided another of his amazingly detailed discussions to help illuminate the sometimes confusing details of TGB collision and physics. Here is just a sample:
Quote:
To explain collision contact and collision normal further let's bring back our objects "A" and "B". Imagine that
object "B" is stationary and cannot be moved no matter what; it's immovable. Now imagine that object "A" is moving right and hits object "B". When it hits it hits at the collision point (the collision contact) and that
collision has a collision normal as shown here:
New Game Demos and Documentation
The community has asked for new examples of how TGB can be used to make a variety of game types, and we've responded! Thanks to the hard work of Tom Eastman , Matt Langley and a member of our intern team, Robert Potter, we bring you some new game examples:
As well as a Behavior based version of the Shooter Demo, Blackjack, and an enhanced Checkers Demo!
All of the new Game Demos come with full TorqueScript, images, and can serve as starting points for an even larger variety of game types for the new user.
In addition to the four new Demos, we've also greatly increased the reference level documentation of TGB's user API, providing even more detailed information on hundreds of TGB classes and their methods. Here's an example:
castCollision(float elapsedTime)
Description: Returns collision details for object over elapsed-time.
Params:
elapsedTime: The number of seconds into the future to check for collisions. If this number is
0.0, the collision will be done based on the current position of all objects. If it is greater
than 0.0, the engine will perform the collision detection across a simulated time period of
length time and return the first collision detected.
Return:
space separated list: If no collision occurs, the return value is an empty string.
Otherwise, the list is in the form 'object time contactX contactY normalX normalY'. 'object'
is the object collided with, 'time' is the number of seconds in the future the collision took
place as a float (this number will always be less than the time parameter), 'contact' is
the position the objects collided at as a vector, and 'normal' is the normal of the
collision as a vector.
Example(s):
// time - time to check for collision using current object setup.
// This function allows you to check to see if the object, usings its current setup, will
// collide over a specified period of time.
%obj.castCollision( 1.0 );
New Functionality: Built in A-Star Pathfinding
We always love to see users enhancing Torque to accomplish cool things, and it's even better when they decide to give back to the community the results of their hard work as a resource or asset for the community to use. Sometimes, the contribution is so nice to have that we decide it should become a core feature of future products.
One perfect example is the amazing work done by Phil Shenk on his resource A-Star Pathfinding Extension for T2D -- a C++ implementation of a very popular and powerful path finding algorithm used in hundreds if not thousands of 2D and 3D games.
Based extensively on Phil's resource, we're proud to announce that Torque Game Builder 1.7.3 now provides integrated A-Star Pathfinding for any TGB object. We've taken Phil's resource and provided a TorqueScript interface that allows even binary only TGB owners to use real time path finding within their game, including dynamic modifications of the world affecting current and future paths.
We've also written a new tutorial to teach the basics of the TGB aStar API, Attack of the Mutant Butterflies!
You have Become Better at Transparent Development (100)!
As I mentioned above, we've been very impressed with the community participation we've received so far during our Transparent Development strategy, and we're ready to take it to the next step: interactive development.
For the TGB 1.7.3 update, this will take place in two different ways:
Enhancement of the aStar Pathfinding feature for future releases
The aStar implementation provided with this update has some interesting features, but there's always room for improvement! Over the course of both the 1.7.3 open beta period, and in the following months we will be looking for active feedback and contributions to make the feature even more powerful for you, the community. We hope to see both developers brand new to TGB and power developers that have been with us since the beginning work together to further enhance the aStar capabilities built in to TGB.
A soon to be announced interactive project between GarageGames and the Community
I'll save the details for a .plan in the very near future, but we will be sponsoring an interactive development project for the community based on the aStar functionality. Stay tuned for further announcements, but I'll leave you with this teaser:
TGB 1.7.3 Beta Discussion/Reporting
Here are a couple of posts that should be used when discussing this beta, as well as directions for how to submit bugs:
TGB aStar General Discussion
How to submit bugs for TGB 1.7.3 beta
TGB 1.7.3 Installation/general questions
Full change list
Known Issues with TGB 1.7.3 beta 1
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Submit your own resources!| Ben Sparks (Warspawn) (Apr 29, 2008 at 00:22 GMT) |
Edited on Apr 29, 2008 01:02 GMT
| Stephen Zepp (Apr 29, 2008 at 00:36 GMT) Resource Rating: 5 |
Please remember that you must be a licensed TGB user to participate in this beta--there are no Trial beta installers at this time.
Edited on Apr 29, 2008 00:58 GMT
| Joe Rossi (Apr 29, 2008 at 00:59 GMT) |
| Rene Damm (Apr 29, 2008 at 01:05 GMT) |
Quote:
...you must be a licensed TGB user to participate in this beta...
Damn... :)
| David Blake (Apr 29, 2008 at 01:05 GMT) |
| Phillip OShea (Apr 29, 2008 at 01:19 GMT) |
adjective
1. inspiring awe: an awesome sight.
2. showing or characterized by awe.
3. Slang. very impressive: That new white convertible is totally awesome.
4. This blog.
Edited on Apr 29, 2008 01:20 GMT
| Jeremy Alessi (Apr 29, 2008 at 01:53 GMT) |
| Dustin Sims (Apr 29, 2008 at 02:11 GMT) |
| Tom Eastman (Eastbeast314) (Apr 29, 2008 at 05:46 GMT) |
And integrated A*... awesome!
And also, please, please, sic an artist on my awful programmer art for Reactor. I tried to make it as ugly as possible so that an artist would fix it :)
Edited on Apr 29, 2008 05:47 GMT
| Benjamin L. Grauer (Apr 29, 2008 at 08:46 GMT) |
Even if in the end the last biggest one was a design miscalculation on my part x[]
| Tom Perry (Apr 29, 2008 at 09:01 GMT) |
| Wenceslao Villanueva Jr. (Apr 29, 2008 at 09:19 GMT) |
| Melv May (Apr 29, 2008 at 09:57 GMT) |
I know the GG guys expected this comment from me but nevertheless I'd just like to highlight that I've not tried to rework the physics completely or anything, simply remove the obvious and annoying issues that people were fighting with namely objects sticking and the rigid-body being completely borked and other really poor performance issues. Changes I could've made were completely beyond what we could've got to you in time for this release.
With all that said, it should work pretty sweet for most people and some really silly problems have been completely eradicated.
All in all, it's a very nice beta-release and hopefully one that people will be happy to develop with. Big thanks to all those people who helped this code monkey get it done, you know who you all are.
Looking forward to your feedback and please don't hesitate if you find any problem.
Melv.
EDIT: @Benjamin: Thanks for your patience especially. I really, really, really hope you get IceWolf out to the masses as it is very cool indeed.
Edited on Apr 29, 2008 09:59 GMT
| jydog (Apr 29, 2008 at 10:34 GMT) |
excellANT.
| Leroy Frederick (Apr 29, 2008 at 14:20 GMT) Resource Rating: 5 |
| Chris Serino (Apr 29, 2008 at 17:36 GMT) |
| Stephen Zepp (Apr 29, 2008 at 17:39 GMT) Resource Rating: 5 |
Quote:
Looks like you're rocking a little tower defense action there in the last screen. I love me some tower defense! I'm pretty excited to see where this "interactive project" goes.
Stay tuned!
| Mike Lilligreen (Apr 29, 2008 at 19:35 GMT) |
| Robert Dowling (Apr 29, 2008 at 22:50 GMT) |
| Stephen Jolly (Apr 30, 2008 at 02:43 GMT) |
| Chad Kilgore (Apr 30, 2008 at 15:09 GMT) |
| Stephen Zepp (Apr 30, 2008 at 15:11 GMT) Resource Rating: 5 |
| Clint Herron (Apr 30, 2008 at 19:37 GMT) Resource Rating: 5 |
Edited on Apr 30, 2008 19:57 GMT
| Kevin James (May 01, 2008 at 20:53 GMT) |
From the change log it looks like this release is even better than I had hoped!
KUDOS!
| Clint Herron (May 02, 2008 at 19:25 GMT) Resource Rating: 5 |
| Stephen Zepp (May 02, 2008 at 22:32 GMT) Resource Rating: 5 |
No estimation quite yet on how long that will take, but it probably will be treated separately from the PC build so they don't hold each other back.
| Clint Herron (May 02, 2008 at 22:38 GMT) Resource Rating: 5 |
Edited on May 02, 2008 22:38 GMT
| Deozaan (May 06, 2008 at 07:42 GMT) Resource Rating: 5 |
But I'm always left wondering why this kind of information isn't ever pushed to the built-in TGB RSS News feed. Or announced on the main site. I always have to dig through blogs or rely on word of mouth to find out about updates. :-(
Thanks for the massive updates, I'm downloading it now. :-)
| AndyP (May 07, 2008 at 16:54 GMT) |
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